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anthony
20-01-2009, 11:49 AM
My blu ray player (connected to a Sony projector) is set for 1080p
24fps.
So far so good.
However, my blu ray player's brochure states that the machine will
automatically detect, from the disc, whether you are in PAL or NTSC
region, and will output accordingly.
Does that mean that because I'm in a PAL region, that even with the
24ps setting, it will somehow adjust to send a 50hz signal to my
projection device and thereby introduce the dreaded PAL audio speed-up
factor? Does that mean that, as with DVDs, I have to once again source
all my material from the States (Region A)?

Zappo
20-01-2009, 08:26 PM
If it is set for 1080p 24fps it will display the Blu-ray correctly. If set
for 1080p without setting 24fps it will display 1080p 50hz for Australian
Blu-rays or 1080p 60hz for American Blu-rays. Your projector should be able
to display what the signal being received is.
"anthony" <anthonyjhcnospam@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:f2b67052-6380-4c28-b6c1-615fdaf61156@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> My blu ray player (connected to a Sony projector) is set for 1080p
> 24fps.
> So far so good.
> However, my blu ray player's brochure states that the machine will
> automatically detect, from the disc, whether you are in PAL or NTSC
> region, and will output accordingly.
> Does that mean that because I'm in a PAL region, that even with the
> 24ps setting, it will somehow adjust to send a 50hz signal to my
> projection device and thereby introduce the dreaded PAL audio speed-up
> factor? Does that mean that, as with DVDs, I have to once again source
> all my material from the States (Region A)?

anthony
21-01-2009, 05:01 PM
On Jan 20, 6:48*pm, "Zappo" <zappo473nos...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> If it is set for 1080p 24fps it will display the Blu-ray correctly. If set
> for 1080p without setting 24fps it will display 1080p 50hz for Australian
> Blu-rays or 1080p 60hz for American Blu-rays. Your projector should be able
> to display what the signal being received is."anthony" <anthonyjhcnos...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>
Thanks Zappo -- very straightforward. I can watch my new American Blu
ray tonight with confidence (1938 The Adventures of Robin Hood!)

john
21-01-2009, 10:49 PM
"Zappo" <zappo473nospam@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:497581b6$0$7463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> If it is set for 1080p 24fps it will display the Blu-ray correctly. If set
> for 1080p without setting 24fps it will display 1080p 50hz for Australian
> Blu-rays or 1080p 60hz for American Blu-rays. Your projector should be
> able to display what the signal being received is.
> "anthony" <anthonyjhcnospam@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:f2b67052-6380-4c28-b6c1-615fdaf61156@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>> My blu ray player (connected to a Sony projector) is set for 1080p
>> 24fps.
>> So far so good.
>> However, my blu ray player's brochure states that the machine will
>> automatically detect, from the disc, whether you are in PAL or NTSC
>> region, and will output accordingly.
>> Does that mean that because I'm in a PAL region, that even with the
>> 24ps setting, it will somehow adjust to send a 50hz signal to my
>> projection device and thereby introduce the dreaded PAL audio speed-up
>> factor? Does that mean that, as with DVDs, I have to once again source
>> all my material from the States (Region A)?

There is no such a thing as 1080p 50hz Australian Blu-ray, all Blu-ray discs
can be displaed at 1080p/60hz
or 1080p/24Hz but not 1080p/50hz. The only difference between American
Bluray and Australian Bluray
apart from extra features and sound tracks is the region coding. All Bluray
player sold in Australia will be
able to play Pal and Ntsc dvds because dvd region 4 countries also include
countries such as Argentina and
a few other South American countries which use NTSC broadcasting standard
but that does not mean all bluray
players are multiregion dvd capable out of the box.
>
>

anthony
22-01-2009, 12:46 PM
On Jan 21, 9:39*pm, "john" <jli...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> "Zappo" <zappo473nos...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:497581b6$0$7463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>
>
>
> > If it is set for 1080p 24fps it will display the Blu-ray correctly. If set
> > for 1080p without setting 24fps it will display 1080p 50hz for Australian
> > Blu-rays or 1080p 60hz for American Blu-rays. Your projector should be
> > able to display what the signal being received is.
> > "anthony" <anthonyjhcnos...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> >news:f2b67052-6380-4c28-b6c1-615fdaf61156@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com....
> >> My blu ray player (connected to a Sony projector) is set for 1080p
> >> 24fps.
> >> So far so good.
> >> However, my blu ray player's brochure states that the machine will
> >> automatically detect, from the disc, whether you are in PAL or NTSC
> >> region, and will output accordingly.
> >> Does that mean that because I'm in a PAL region, that even with the
> >> 24ps setting, it will somehow adjust to send a 50hz signal to my
> >> projection device and thereby introduce the dreaded PAL audio speed-up
> >> factor? Does that mean that, as with DVDs, I have to once again source
> >> all my material from the States (Region A)?
>
> There is no such a thing as 1080p 50hz Australian Blu-ray, all Blu-ray discs
> can be displaed at 1080p/60hz
> or 1080p/24Hz but not 1080p/50hz. *The only difference between American
> Bluray and Australian Bluray
> apart from extra features and sound tracks is the region coding. *All Bluray
> player sold in Australia will be
> able to play Pal and Ntsc dvds because dvd region 4 countries also include
> countries such as Argentina and
> a few other South American countries which use NTSC broadcasting standard
> but that does not mean all bluray
> players are multiregion dvd capable out of the box.
>
>

Fortunately, my Blu ray player was multi-region out of the box for
both Blu ray and DVDs. Well, almost -- the DVD switches automatically,
but to switch to Region A for Blu ray, I must open the tray and then
press buttons 1 then 2 on the remote. Not exactly difficult ... It's a
Kogan, which I bought on Ebay for $270 and so far I'm really
impressed by both the DVD upscaling and the Blu ray playback -- played
Region A 'From Russia With Love' last week and it handled the
'foreign' region with ease.
Anthony

Alan Rutlidge
23-01-2009, 04:03 AM
"anthony" <anthonyjhcnospam@netscape.net> wrote in message
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On Jan 21, 9:39 pm, "john" <jli...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> "Zappo" <zappo473nos...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:497581b6$0$7463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>
>
>
> > If it is set for 1080p 24fps it will display the Blu-ray correctly. If
> > set
> > for 1080p without setting 24fps it will display 1080p 50hz for
> > Australian
> > Blu-rays or 1080p 60hz for American Blu-rays. Your projector should be
> > able to display what the signal being received is.
> > "anthony" <anthonyjhcnos...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> >news:f2b67052-6380-4c28-b6c1-615fdaf61156@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> >> My blu ray player (connected to a Sony projector) is set for 1080p
> >> 24fps.
> >> So far so good.
> >> However, my blu ray player's brochure states that the machine will
> >> automatically detect, from the disc, whether you are in PAL or NTSC
> >> region, and will output accordingly.
> >> Does that mean that because I'm in a PAL region, that even with the
> >> 24ps setting, it will somehow adjust to send a 50hz signal to my
> >> projection device and thereby introduce the dreaded PAL audio speed-up
> >> factor? Does that mean that, as with DVDs, I have to once again source
> >> all my material from the States (Region A)?
>
> There is no such a thing as 1080p 50hz Australian Blu-ray, all Blu-ray
> discs
> can be displaed at 1080p/60hz
> or 1080p/24Hz but not 1080p/50hz. The only difference between American
> Bluray and Australian Bluray
> apart from extra features and sound tracks is the region coding. All
> Bluray
> player sold in Australia will be
> able to play Pal and Ntsc dvds because dvd region 4 countries also include
> countries such as Argentina and
> a few other South American countries which use NTSC broadcasting standard
> but that does not mean all bluray
> players are multiregion dvd capable out of the box.
>
>

Fortunately, my Blu ray player was multi-region out of the box for
both Blu ray and DVDs. Well, almost -- the DVD switches automatically,
but to switch to Region A for Blu ray, I must open the tray and then
press buttons 1 then 2 on the remote. Not exactly difficult ... It's a
Kogan, which I bought on Ebay for $270 and so far I'm really
impressed by both the DVD upscaling and the Blu ray playback -- played
Region A 'From Russia With Love' last week and it handled the
'foreign' region with ease.
Anthony

All very well Anthony but I think you're not understanding John's reply.
HD digital video standards of 720p, 1080i and 1080p don't include a colour
encoding standard of PAL, NTSC or SECAM.
This is the beauty of the HD digital standards.
Newer model Blu-ray players may also support a digital video signal of 1080p
@ 24Hz via HDMI as this is the native frame rate (24fps) that motion
pictures are shot at. This eliminates the requirement to convert the signal
to local broadcast standard of 50 or 60Hz used by most older TVs that don't
support the 24Hz option.
The playback resolution and frame rate is selectable by the user in your
Blu-ray player's set up menu.
Most new plasma or LCD TVs can accept all the HD resolutions of 720p, 1080i
and 1080p at both 50 and 60Hz.
Some may not accept 24Hz signals.

anthony
24-01-2009, 11:11 AM
On Jan 23, 2:33*am, "Alan Rutlidge"
<don't_spam_me_rutli...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> "anthony" <anthonyjhcnos...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>
> news:9fd48ad8-ed90-426d-aab8-b7c4beb464c0@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 21, 9:39 pm, "john" <jli...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Zappo" <zappo473nos...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>
> >news:497581b6$0$7463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>
> > > If it is set for 1080p 24fps it will display the Blu-ray correctly. If
> > > set
> > > for 1080p without setting 24fps it will display 1080p 50hz for
> > > Australian
> > > Blu-rays or 1080p 60hz for American Blu-rays. Your projector should be
> > > able to display what the signal being received is.
> > > "anthony" <anthonyjhcnos...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > >news:f2b67052-6380-4c28-b6c1-615fdaf61156@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com....
> > >> My blu ray player (connected to a Sony projector) is set for 1080p
> > >> 24fps.
> > >> So far so good.
> > >> However, my blu ray player's brochure states that the machine will
> > >> automatically detect, from the disc, whether you are in PAL or NTSC
> > >> region, and will output accordingly.
> > >> Does that mean that because I'm in a PAL region, that even with the
> > >> 24ps setting, it will somehow adjust to send a 50hz signal to my
> > >> projection device and thereby introduce the dreaded PAL audio speed-up
> > >> factor? Does that mean that, as with DVDs, I have to once again source
> > >> all my material from the States (Region A)?
>
> > There is no such a thing as 1080p 50hz Australian Blu-ray, all Blu-ray
> > discs
> > can be displaed at 1080p/60hz
> > or 1080p/24Hz but not 1080p/50hz. The only difference between American
> > Bluray and Australian Bluray
> > apart from extra features and sound tracks is the region coding. All
> > Bluray
> > player sold in Australia will be
> > able to play Pal and Ntsc dvds because dvd region 4 countries also include
> > countries such as Argentina and
> > a few other South American countries which use NTSC broadcasting standard
> > but that does not mean all bluray
> > players are multiregion dvd capable out of the box.
>
> Fortunately, my Blu ray player was multi-region out of the box for
> both Blu ray and DVDs. Well, almost -- the DVD switches automatically,
> but to switch to Region A for Blu ray, I must open the tray and then
> press buttons 1 then 2 on the remote. Not exactly difficult ... It's a
> Kogan, which I bought on Ebay *for $270 and so far I'm really
> impressed by both the DVD upscaling and the Blu ray playback -- played
> Region A 'From Russia With Love' last week and it handled the
> 'foreign' region with ease.
> Anthony
>
> All very well Anthony but I think you're not understanding John's reply.
> HD digital video standards of 720p, 1080i and 1080p don't include a colour
> encoding standard of PAL, NTSC or SECAM.
> This is the beauty of the HD digital standards.
> Newer model Blu-ray players may also support a digital video signal of 1080p
> @ 24Hz via HDMI as this is the native frame rate (24fps) that motion
> pictures are shot at. *This eliminates the requirement to convert the signal
> to local broadcast standard of 50 or 60Hz used by most older TVs that don't
> support the 24Hz option.
> The playback resolution and frame rate is selectable by the user in your
> Blu-ray player's set up menu.
> Most new plasma or LCD TVs can accept all the HD resolutions of 720p, 1080i
> and 1080p at both 50 and 60Hz.
> Some may not accept 24Hz signals.

Well Alan, that makes sense .. got it. I have my output set to the
1080p @ 24 as that is supported by my Sony VPLHW10 projector. So I can
buy Region 2 discs with total confidence -- which is great since some
forthcoming releases here in Australia are cheaper (taking exchange
rate into account) than the US versions. I'm thinking of picking up
Casablanca (abt $30 compared to $50US, though the US version does have
a third bonus disc), along with local versions of Groundhog Day,
Thunderball and Goldfinger. Special stuff such as Criterion's release
of Truffaut '400 Blows' will most probably only be available in Region
A, so I guess there will still be a role for Amazon and
DVDPacific .....