1.8inch MP4 Player

[chinaprostore]

NEW Product form ChinaProstore

1.8inch MP4 Player

http://www.chinaprostore.com/ProductShow.asp?ID=246

It's very beautiful , more than Ipod

[Robert L Bass]

> chinaprostore...

Covered in lead paint, no doubt.

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[Frank Olson]

Robert L Bass wrote:
>> chinaprostore...
>
> Covered in lead paint, no doubt.
>


With an equally "stirling" BBB report too!

http://westflorida.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=47&bbb=0653&firm=41001663

[Bill Kearney]

"Robert L Bass" <RobertLBass@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:uX43j.19594$XT.13779@trnddc01...
> > chinaprostore...
>
> Covered in lead paint, no doubt.

More likely the sort that converts to GHB. Better for selling to the raver
crowd.

[Robert L Bass]

>> Covered in lead paint, no doubt.
>
> More likely the sort that converts to GHB. Better for selling to
> the raver crowd.

This brings up a serious issue.

With the repeated reports of poisoned food, toys covered in lead
paint, employees literally enslaved, etc., we've tried to stop buying
anything made in China. The problem is their stuff is so ubiquitous
it's almost impossible to eliminate. It seems like nearly everything
you buy has at least some component part made in China.

Now there's another issue, a much larger one, with which I'm
grappling. Many of the systems we sell online come from China or are
at least assembled there. I have no reason to believe that any of
them represent a hazard but I am concerned with the moral issue of
supporting their economy while they try to sack ours. If they
continue shipping tainted products and using anti-competitive trade
practices, not to mention abusing employees, I have to decide whether
(and how) to remove them from our online stores.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-232-0791
Fax 941-870-3252
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[Frank Olson]

Robert L Bass wrote:
>>> Covered in lead paint, no doubt.
>>
>> More likely the sort that converts to GHB. Better for selling to the
>> raver crowd.
>
> This brings up a serious issue.
>
> With the repeated reports of poisoned food, toys covered in lead paint,

That's not the only thing we should be concerned with.
http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071116/NEWS01/71116035


> employees literally enslaved, etc., we've tried to stop buying anything
> made in China.

How "big" of you. I understand there's a huge child exploitation
problem in Brazil. What are you doing about that (besides vacationing
there and taking advantage of the very lifestyle that supports this).


> The problem is their stuff is so ubiquitous it's almost
> impossible to eliminate. It seems like nearly everything you buy has at
> least some component part made in China.

I'll bet the laptop you're posting this from is made in China. For
shame, Bass.


>
> Now there's another issue, a much larger one, with which I'm grappling.
> Many of the systems we sell online come from China or are at least
> assembled there. I have no reason to believe that any of them represent
> a hazard but I am concerned with the moral issue of supporting their
> economy while they try to sack ours. If they continue shipping tainted
> products and using anti-competitive trade practices, not to mention
> abusing employees, I have to decide whether (and how) to remove them
> from our online stores.

EVERYTHING electronic has origins in China these days. You blame the
Chinese for this. Look to the US based manufacturers who are really
responsible for this debacle in their "push" for higher profit and a
greater return on their investment. One way to "fight" back is to make
sure everything you sell is RoHS compliant (a major challenge for you
since you don't even physically see or "handle" the product you sell).

[rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org]

chinaprostore wrote:
> NEW Product form ChinaProstore
>
> 1.8inch MP4 Player

Unbranded MP4 players aren't worth the cost of shipping, in my opinion.
In the last year, these players have been pouring out of China, mostly
hacked so that they report much more flash memory capacity than they
actually have. When that happens, you have not only been ripped off for
the memory, but also the device will start to fail even if you use less
than the actual memory capacity.

Google for "mp4 ebay fraud".

[Robert L Bass]

> When that happens, you have not only been ripped off for the
> memory, but also the device will start to fail even if you use less
> than the actual memory capacity.
>
> Google for "mp4 ebay fraud".

Better yet, just don't buy Chinese made products.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

==============================>
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4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-232-0791
Fax 941-870-3252
==============================>

[Frank Olson]

Robert L Bass wrote:
>> When that happens, you have not only been ripped off for the memory,
>> but also the device will start to fail even if you use less than the
>> actual memory capacity.
>>
>> Google for "mp4 ebay fraud".
>
> Better yet, just don't buy Chinese made products.
>


Where are your "saltwater lures" made?? ;-)

[AZ Woody]

As you put up holiday lights, think about how many of them were made in
China!

As the lead paint issue has hit toys, I noticed that the color was
chipping off many of my "mini lights".. What's in the flakes that will
be winding up all over my house!

This, the toy recall, the mp3 scams, etc, etc, etc, just make you wonder
what we are doing to ourselves by going with so much stuff from China.

[RickH]

On Nov 28, 8:17 am, Frank Olson
<use_the_email_li...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote:
> Robert L Bass wrote:
> >>> Covered in lead paint, no doubt.
>
> >> More likely the sort that converts to GHB. Better for selling to the
> >> raver crowd.
>
> > This brings up a serious issue.
>
> > With the repeated reports of poisoned food, toys covered in lead paint,
>
> That's not the only thing we should be concerned with.http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071116/NEWS...
>
> > employees literally enslaved, etc., we've tried to stop buying anything
> > made in China.
>
> How "big" of you. I understand there's a huge child exploitation
> problem in Brazil. What are you doing about that (besides vacationing
> there and taking advantage of the very lifestyle that supports this).
>
> > The problem is their stuff is so ubiquitous it's almost
> > impossible to eliminate. It seems like nearly everything you buy has at
> > least some component part made in China.
>
> I'll bet the laptop you're posting this from is made in China. For
> shame, Bass.
>
>
>
> > Now there's another issue, a much larger one, with which I'm grappling.
> > Many of the systems we sell online come from China or are at least
> > assembled there. I have no reason to believe that any of them represent
> > a hazard but I am concerned with the moral issue of supporting their
> > economy while they try to sack ours. If they continue shipping tainted
> > products and using anti-competitive trade practices, not to mention
> > abusing employees, I have to decide whether (and how) to remove them
> > from our online stores.
>
> EVERYTHING electronic has origins in China these days. You blame the
> Chinese for this. Look to the US based manufacturers who are really
> responsible for this debacle in their "push" for higher profit and a
> greater return on their investment. One way to "fight" back is to make
> sure everything you sell is RoHS compliant (a major challenge for you
> since you don't even physically see or "handle" the product you sell).

I had lead toy soldiers when I was a kid, I used to make them with
molds handed down from my grandfather out of plumbers lead. I also
had a big bottle of mercury that I used to play with, collected from
broken thermometers and thermostats. I'm fine. The lead hazards are
way overrated. What would one of you do if a CFL bulb was dropped in
your childs bedroom and broke? Move out of the house?

[Bill Kearney]

"Frank Olson" <use_the_email_links@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message
news:2Me3j.62121$cD.42763@pd7urf2no...
> For shame, Bass.

Once again Frank's got nothing to contribute to the thread other than his
pathetic stalking.

[Robert L Bass]

>> How "big" of you. I understand there's a huge child exploitation
>> problem in Brazil. What are you doing about that (besides
>> vacationing there and taking advantage of the very lifestyle that
>> supports this).

I usually ignore this gentleman but in this case I'll reply. My
family (me, my wife, and my in-laws) support an orphanage with about
70 children in one of the many favelas (slums) in Salvador, BA,
Brazil. There are about 30 orphans there. The rest are cared for
during the day so their parents can work. The mix varies as more
children arrive periodically and others find homes or the parents or
families take them back. It's not a major gift but we do what we
can.

We also contribute most of the support to a day care facility for
some of the poorest children in a favela in another part of the city.
Many of the children there were suffering from malnutrition and
various treatable but untreated childhood diseases when they arrived.
At the creche they are well-fed, lovingly cared for and given access
to medicine and treatment.

If you ever went to one of these places and spent a few minutes with
the children you'd understand why we can't say no to them.

>>> The problem is their stuff is so ubiquitous it's almost
>>> impossible to eliminate. It seems like nearly everything you buy
>>> has at least some component part made in China.
>>
>> I'll bet the laptop you're posting this from is made in China.
>> For shame, Bass.

It's a tower made by Compaq. I don't know where it was made but I
wouldn't be surprised if at least some of its components came from
China. Today I got a call from a camera manufacturer from China.
They wanted to know if we would be interested in marketing their
products. I politely explained that, although their products might
be excellent, I will no longer take on new lines of Chinese made
goods. I have yet to decide whether I will drop current Chinese
goods from our website. If I do it's probably going to be a royal
pain just figuring out what comes from where.

>>> Now there's another issue, a much larger one, with which I'm
>>> grappling. Many of the systems we sell online come from China or
>>> are at least assembled there. I have no reason to believe that
>>> any of them represent a hazard but I am concerned with the moral
>>> issue of supporting their economy while they try to sack ours.
>>> If they continue shipping tainted products and using
>>> anti-competitive trade practices, not to mention abusing
>>> employees, I have to decide whether (and how) to remove them from
>>> our online stores.
>
>> EVERYTHING electronic has origins in China these days. You blame
>> the Chinese for this...

Nope. As long as Americans insist on getting the least expensive
"whatever" there will be a voracious appetite for Chinese goods.

>> Look to the US based manufacturers who are really responsible for
>> this debacle...

You don't understand a market-based economy or you'd realise it's the
consumers who make the real choices.

> in their "push" for higher profit and a greater return on their
> investment. One way to "fight" back is to make sure everything you
> sell is RoHS compliant...

I'm in the USA.

> I had lead toy soldiers when I was a kid, I used to make them with
> molds handed down from my grandfather out of plumbers lead. I also
> had a big bottle of mercury that I used to play with, collected
> from broken thermometers and thermostats. I'm fine. The lead
> hazards are way overrated. What would one of you do if a CFL bulb
> was dropped in your childs bedroom and broke? Move out of the
> house?

I had lead toy soldiers, too. I also played with mercury in school
science classes. Whether those things had any negative effect is
difficult to measure on an individual basis. However, we do know for
proven fact that lead causes major health problems in children. We
also know that mercury is hazardous on contact. That doesn't mean
you run away and hide if someone breaks a light bulb. It does mean
(for me, at least) that I try not to allow the 4-month old baby in my
home to come into contact with those substances. It also means that
when I discover that a company or, worse, some government is
deliberately shipping tainted children's toys to my country I won't
buy from them any more.

You decide what's right for yourself and your family.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Sarasota · Florida · 34233
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Customer Service 941-232-0791
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[Frank Olson]

Bill Kearney wrote:
> "Frank Olson" <use_the_email_links@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message
> news:2Me3j.62121$cD.42763@pd7urf2no...
>> For shame, Bass.
>
> Once again Frank's got nothing to contribute to the thread other than his
> pathetic stalking.
>


Actually, it's slightly above average, which is significantly better
than "pathetic". I do however, consider your response rather
"mediocre", which is still above "pathetic", but not by much. ;-)

[Lewis Gardner]

Robert L Bass wrote:

> We also know that mercury is hazardous on contact.

Actually no.

Contact is not the problem, vapors are.


HOW MERCURY ENTERS AND AFFECTS YOUR BODY

Liquid mercury easily changes into a vapor. You are most likely to be
exposed by breathing in mercury vapors, which are easily absorbed
through your lungs into your body. Liquid mercury is not well absorbed
through the skin. However, harmful absorption can occur through broken
or damaged skin, or if there is lengthy skin contact.

Most effects of mercury exposure develop slowly over time. Symptoms
usually occur only after repeated overexposure. These effects include
insomnia, loss of appetite, nausea, weakness, and muscle tremors. Brief
exposures to very high levels of mercury vapors can affect the lungs.

www.dhs.ca.gov/ohb/HESIS/merc.htm

[Dave Houston]

Lewis Gardner <lgardner@simplifiedtechnologies.com> wrote:

>Robert L Bass wrote:
>
>> We also know that mercury is hazardous on contact.
>
>Actually no.
>
>Contact is not the problem, vapors are.
>
>
>HOW MERCURY ENTERS AND AFFECTS YOUR BODY
>
>Liquid mercury easily changes into a vapor. You are most likely to be
>exposed by breathing in mercury vapors, which are easily absorbed
>through your lungs into your body. Liquid mercury is not well absorbed
>through the skin. However, harmful absorption can occur through broken
>or damaged skin, or if there is lengthy skin contact.
>
>Most effects of mercury exposure develop slowly over time. Symptoms
>usually occur only after repeated overexposure. These effects include
>insomnia, loss of appetite, nausea, weakness, and muscle tremors. Brief
>exposures to very high levels of mercury vapors can affect the lungs.
>
>www.dhs.ca.gov/ohb/HESIS/merc.htm

I'm not so sure. That seems to say us tall folk with lengthy skin might have
contact problems. ;)

The amount of mercury emitted in the USA is significantly less than the
amount being dumped on us from China's increasing use of coal.

http://davehouston.net http://davehouston.org
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/roZetta/
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[Doug]

Frank has a pathetic stalk?

Doug

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"Bill Kearney" <wkearney-99@hot-mail-com> wrote in message
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>
> "Frank Olson" <use_the_email_links@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in
> message
> news:2Me3j.62121$cD.42763@pd7urf2no...
>> For shame, Bass.
>
> Once again Frank's got nothing to contribute to the thread other than his
> pathetic stalking.
>

[Doug]

I'd hazard a guess that half the products you sell are probably made in
China or have some component made in China, there is price to be paid over
and above the actual purchase price of Chinese made products, the Western
World will someday have to pay that price.

Doug

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"Robert L Bass" <> wrote in message news:q%k3j.49098$Xg.9619@trnddc06...
>> When that happens, you have not only been ripped off for the memory, but
>> also the device will start to fail even if you use less than the actual
>> memory capacity.
>>
>> Google for "mp4 ebay fraud".
>
> Better yet, just don't buy Chinese made products.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
> ==============================>
> http://www.bassburgIaraIarms.com
> ==============================>

[Frank Olson]

Doug wrote:
> Frank has a pathetic stalk?
>
> Doug
>


Yeah, I have to pay girls to go out with me.

[Robert L Bass]

"Lewis Gardner" wrote:
>
>> We also know that mercury is hazardous on contact.
>
> Actually no.
>
> Contact is not the problem, vapors are.

I stand corrected. Thanks.

> Most effects of mercury exposure develop slowly over time. Symptoms
> usually occur only after repeated overexposure.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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[Robert L Bass]

> The amount of mercury emitted in the USA is significantly less than
> the amount being dumped on us from China's increasing use of coal.

Mr. Houston would have us believe that because China does worse
things to the environment there's no need for us to improve what we
do.

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Robert L Bass

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[chinaprostore]

go on

[Robert L Bass]

"chinaprostore" wrote:
>
> go on

???

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Robert L Bass

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Customer Service 941-232-0791
Fax 941-870-3252
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