Re: Good Bookshelf Speakers Recommendation

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> > "TH" <th0093spamstinks@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm looking for some good bookshelf size speakers to 'round out' my
A/V
> > > system. My room is not huge, probably 20' x 15', so I don't need to
> > > overpower the room. I'm looking to keep the price per speaker at or
> below
> > > $250 per speaker ($500 total).
> > >
> > > Any recommendations out there? Is there anything that I should stay
away
> > > from?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > TH
> >
> > You have three choices
> > 1.b&w 600 series
> > 2.b&w 600 series
> > 3.B&W 600 series
> > Glad to be of help
>
> You can actually do much better than for the money. Paradigm, PSB, Energy,
> Athena, Totem....shall I go on?
> Thats enough of an advertisment for the Canadian speaker industry.

>

[Jack Dotson]

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>> <steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>> > "TH" <th0093spamstinks@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns95CD602F7F246th0093comcastnet@216.196.97.1 36...
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > I'm looking for some good bookshelf size speakers to 'round out' my
> A/V
>> > > system. My room is not huge, probably 20' x 15', so I don't need to
>> > > overpower the room. I'm looking to keep the price per speaker at or
>> below
>> > > $250 per speaker ($500 total).
>> > >
>> > > Any recommendations out there? Is there anything that I should stay
> away
>> > > from?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for your help.
>> > >
>> > > TH
>> >
>> > You have three choices
>> > 1.b&w 600 series
>> > 2.b&w 600 series
>> > 3.B&W 600 series
>> > Glad to be of help
>>
>> You can actually do much better than for the money. Paradigm, PSB,
>> Energy,
>> Athena, Totem....shall I go on?
>> Thats enough of an advertisment for the Canadian speaker industry.

Steve, just because you own these speakers don't make them the best. It's
terrible the way you act as if you are the final authority on these matter
and rarely use IMO. You reply to just about every post and the problem is
the majority of the time you don't even know what your talking about. There
are many of us that have been into the audio, and more recently HT, hobby
for awhile and can see right through it. People, please use your own ears
and listen to all recommendations. I can't believe he called this "enough
advertisement for the Canadian speaker industry", when he boast about his
B&W 600's practically on a daily basis. Each of the speakers manufacturers
mentioned above have book shelf speakers in the price range that can easily
hold their own to the B&W 600's, and IMO, Paradigm, PSB, Energy and Totem
have one's that are superior.

Bottom line is go out and listen for yourself. Steve, don't mean to piss
on your parade, but you tend to go overboard with your post.

[Mark Simon]

Try http://www.htd.com/ . I don't claim to be an audiophile but I found
them to sound as good or better in the "big box" stores at half the price.
They offer a 30 day money back guarantee. I live in the same city, so I
actually got to listen in their showroom.

Again, I don't claim High end audio knowledge, but for your average Joe they
had great quality and sound for the money.

Remove the splinter to reply.


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>> > "TH" <th0093spamstinks@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns95CD602F7F246th0093comcastnet@216.196.97.1 36...
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > I'm looking for some good bookshelf size speakers to 'round out' my
> A/V
>> > > system. My room is not huge, probably 20' x 15', so I don't need to
>> > > overpower the room. I'm looking to keep the price per speaker at or
>> below
>> > > $250 per speaker ($500 total).
>> > >
>> > > Any recommendations out there? Is there anything that I should stay
> away
>> > > from?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for your help.
>> > >
>> > > TH
>> >
>> > You have three choices
>> > 1.b&w 600 series
>> > 2.b&w 600 series
>> > 3.B&W 600 series
>> > Glad to be of help
>>
>> You can actually do much better than for the money. Paradigm, PSB,
>> Energy,
>> Athena, Totem....shall I go on?
>> Thats enough of an advertisment for the Canadian speaker industry.
>
>>
>
>

"Jack Dotson" <jdotson@stx.rr.com> wrote in message
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> >> <steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> >> > "TH" <th0093spamstinks@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:Xns95CD602F7F246th0093comcastnet@216.196.97.1 36...
> >> > > Hi all,
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm looking for some good bookshelf size speakers to 'round out' my
> > A/V
> >> > > system. My room is not huge, probably 20' x 15', so I don't need to
> >> > > overpower the room. I'm looking to keep the price per speaker at or
> >> below
> >> > > $250 per speaker ($500 total).
> >> > >
> >> > > Any recommendations out there? Is there anything that I should stay
> > away
> >> > > from?
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks for your help.
> >> > >
> >> > > TH
> >> >
> >> > You have three choices
> >> > 1.b&w 600 series
> >> > 2.b&w 600 series
> >> > 3.B&W 600 series
> >> > Glad to be of help
> >>
> >> You can actually do much better than for the money. Paradigm, PSB,
> >> Energy,
> >> Athena, Totem....shall I go on?
> >> Thats enough of an advertisment for the Canadian speaker industry.
>
> Steve, just because you own these speakers don't make them the best. It's
> terrible the way you act as if you are the final authority on these matter
> and rarely use IMO. You reply to just about every post and the problem is
> the majority of the time you don't even know what your talking about.
There
> are many of us that have been into the audio, and more recently HT, hobby
> for awhile and can see right through it. People, please use your own ears
> and listen to all recommendations. I can't believe he called this "enough
> advertisement for the Canadian speaker industry", when he boast about his
> B&W 600's practically on a daily basis. Each of the speakers
manufacturers
> mentioned above have book shelf speakers in the price range that can
easily
> hold their own to the B&W 600's, and IMO, Paradigm, PSB, Energy and Totem
> have one's that are superior.
>
> Bottom line is go out and listen for yourself. Steve, don't mean to piss
> on your parade, but you tend to go overboard with your post.
> Sorry if I stepped on your toes, but speakers are a very personal
decision, the ones you like tend to be different from the ones others do.
And I like beemers, sorry if I come on strong but there is a representative
from the Canadian speaker industry posting on this group, and the more hell
he gives me for saying beemers are superior the more strident I get.
Speakers are the last bastion of personality in the audio industry, unless
you worship at the altar of "tube" sound.
And theres nothing I hate worse than speakers designed by "invoice",order
the drivers, cad-cam the thing, put a pretty wood cabinet around it and slap
a price tag on it
Theres a line of speakers from france that uses cardboard based drivers,
thats because the guy designing them swears by them, and doesnt care if they
arent considered "up to date".
How do they sound? The reviews are good, but however they sound its
certainly not the generic sound you get from todays speaker universe.
ENERGY? Well, my local dealer went to these after he lost his beemer
francise, and like when I first heard them that DAMNED titanium tweeter was
drilling through my brain in minutes. This is the main plaint I have with
most Canadian speakers, they insist on using these tweeters that you could
shoot UFOS out of the sky with.
C'mon guys, have you never heard of cloth or aluminum?
You name it and I've listened to it, and when I was about to make my home
theater/hi-fi setup primarily HT, an afternoon with my local B&W dealer,
talking about the local music festival(which hes' in charge of) and
listening to a pair of low line beemers hooked up to some Adcom stuff
reignited my love of music. So please excuse an old man who has rediscovered
the first love of his life, sound over a decent set of speakers, and
sometimes gets a tad too enthusiastic about the speakers that made it happen
Just dont take it personal, its no slam on me if you prefer Paradigm, or
energy, or a good set of Maggies, you shouldnt consider it an insult because
I dont prefer what you choose.
Lets just all agree that if you invest in a line of speakers you will be ill
served if you dont give everything a listen, okay?
>
>

[Dan]

Athena, Infinity
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>> >> > "TH" <th0093spamstinks@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:Xns95CD602F7F246th0093comcastnet@216.196.97.1 36...
>> >> > > Hi all,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I'm looking for some good bookshelf size speakers to 'round out'
>> >> > > my
>> > A/V
>> >> > > system. My room is not huge, probably 20' x 15', so I don't need
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > overpower the room. I'm looking to keep the price per speaker at
>> >> > > or
>> >> below
>> >> > > $250 per speaker ($500 total).
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Any recommendations out there? Is there anything that I should
>> >> > > stay
>> > away
>> >> > > from?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks for your help.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > TH
>> >> >
>> >> > You have three choices
>> >> > 1.b&w 600 series
>> >> > 2.b&w 600 series
>> >> > 3.B&W 600 series
>> >> > Glad to be of help
>> >>
>> >> You can actually do much better than for the money. Paradigm, PSB,
>> >> Energy,
>> >> Athena, Totem....shall I go on?
>> >> Thats enough of an advertisment for the Canadian speaker industry.
>>
>> Steve, just because you own these speakers don't make them the best.
>> It's
>> terrible the way you act as if you are the final authority on these
>> matter
>> and rarely use IMO. You reply to just about every post and the problem
>> is
>> the majority of the time you don't even know what your talking about.
> There
>> are many of us that have been into the audio, and more recently HT, hobby
>> for awhile and can see right through it. People, please use your own
>> ears
>> and listen to all recommendations. I can't believe he called this
>> "enough
>> advertisement for the Canadian speaker industry", when he boast about his
>> B&W 600's practically on a daily basis. Each of the speakers
> manufacturers
>> mentioned above have book shelf speakers in the price range that can
> easily
>> hold their own to the B&W 600's, and IMO, Paradigm, PSB, Energy and Totem
>> have one's that are superior.
>>
>> Bottom line is go out and listen for yourself. Steve, don't mean to
>> piss
>> on your parade, but you tend to go overboard with your post.
>> Sorry if I stepped on your toes, but speakers are a very personal
> decision, the ones you like tend to be different from the ones others do.
> And I like beemers, sorry if I come on strong but there is a
> representative
> from the Canadian speaker industry posting on this group, and the more
> hell
> he gives me for saying beemers are superior the more strident I get.
> Speakers are the last bastion of personality in the audio industry, unless
> you worship at the altar of "tube" sound.
> And theres nothing I hate worse than speakers designed by "invoice",order
> the drivers, cad-cam the thing, put a pretty wood cabinet around it and
> slap
> a price tag on it
> Theres a line of speakers from france that uses cardboard based drivers,
> thats because the guy designing them swears by them, and doesnt care if
> they
> arent considered "up to date".
> How do they sound? The reviews are good, but however they sound its
> certainly not the generic sound you get from todays speaker universe.
> ENERGY? Well, my local dealer went to these after he lost his beemer
> francise, and like when I first heard them that DAMNED titanium tweeter
> was
> drilling through my brain in minutes. This is the main plaint I have with
> most Canadian speakers, they insist on using these tweeters that you could
> shoot UFOS out of the sky with.
> C'mon guys, have you never heard of cloth or aluminum?
> You name it and I've listened to it, and when I was about to make my home
> theater/hi-fi setup primarily HT, an afternoon with my local B&W dealer,
> talking about the local music festival(which hes' in charge of) and
> listening to a pair of low line beemers hooked up to some Adcom stuff
> reignited my love of music. So please excuse an old man who has
> rediscovered
> the first love of his life, sound over a decent set of speakers, and
> sometimes gets a tad too enthusiastic about the speakers that made it
> happen
> Just dont take it personal, its no slam on me if you prefer Paradigm, or
> energy, or a good set of Maggies, you shouldnt consider it an insult
> because
> I dont prefer what you choose.
> Lets just all agree that if you invest in a line of speakers you will be
> ill
> served if you dont give everything a listen, okay?
>>
>>
>
>

[Youngin...]

Just bought a pair of PSB Image 2B's and love them.

young...

Dan wrote:
> Athena, Infinity
> <steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>><steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>>>"Pug Fugley" <nosir@not.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>"TH" <th0093spamstinks@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:Xns95CD602F7F246th0093comcastnet@216.196.97.1 36...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm looking for some good bookshelf size speakers to 'round out'
>>>>>>>my
>>>>
>>>>A/V
>>>>
>>>>>>>system. My room is not huge, probably 20' x 15', so I don't need
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>overpower the room. I'm looking to keep the price per speaker at
>>>>>>>or
>>>>>
>>>>>below
>>>>>
>>>>>>>$250 per speaker ($500 total).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any recommendations out there? Is there anything that I should
>>>>>>>stay
>>>>
>>>>away
>>>>
>>>>>>>from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You have three choices
>>>>>>1.b&w 600 series
>>>>>>2.b&w 600 series
>>>>>>3.B&W 600 series
>>>>>>Glad to be of help
>>>>>
>>>>>You can actually do much better than for the money. Paradigm, PSB,
>>>>>Energy,
>>>>>Athena, Totem....shall I go on?
>>>>>Thats enough of an advertisment for the Canadian speaker industry.
>>>
>>>Steve, just because you own these speakers don't make them the best.
>>>It's
>>>terrible the way you act as if you are the final authority on these
>>>matter
>>>and rarely use IMO. You reply to just about every post and the problem
>>>is
>>>the majority of the time you don't even know what your talking about.
>>
>>There
>>
>>>are many of us that have been into the audio, and more recently HT, hobby
>>>for awhile and can see right through it. People, please use your own
>>>ears
>>>and listen to all recommendations. I can't believe he called this
>>>"enough
>>>advertisement for the Canadian speaker industry", when he boast about his
>>>B&W 600's practically on a daily basis. Each of the speakers
>>
>>manufacturers
>>
>>>mentioned above have book shelf speakers in the price range that can
>>
>>easily
>>
>>>hold their own to the B&W 600's, and IMO, Paradigm, PSB, Energy and Totem
>>>have one's that are superior.
>>>
>>>Bottom line is go out and listen for yourself. Steve, don't mean to
>>>piss
>>>on your parade, but you tend to go overboard with your post.
>>> Sorry if I stepped on your toes, but speakers are a very personal
>>
>>decision, the ones you like tend to be different from the ones others do.
>>And I like beemers, sorry if I come on strong but there is a
>>representative
>>from the Canadian speaker industry posting on this group, and the more
>>hell
>>he gives me for saying beemers are superior the more strident I get.
>>Speakers are the last bastion of personality in the audio industry, unless
>>you worship at the altar of "tube" sound.
>>And theres nothing I hate worse than speakers designed by "invoice",order
>>the drivers, cad-cam the thing, put a pretty wood cabinet around it and
>>slap
>>a price tag on it
>>Theres a line of speakers from france that uses cardboard based drivers,
>>thats because the guy designing them swears by them, and doesnt care if
>>they
>>arent considered "up to date".
>>How do they sound? The reviews are good, but however they sound its
>>certainly not the generic sound you get from todays speaker universe.
>>ENERGY? Well, my local dealer went to these after he lost his beemer
>>francise, and like when I first heard them that DAMNED titanium tweeter
>>was
>>drilling through my brain in minutes. This is the main plaint I have with
>>most Canadian speakers, they insist on using these tweeters that you could
>>shoot UFOS out of the sky with.
>>C'mon guys, have you never heard of cloth or aluminum?
>>You name it and I've listened to it, and when I was about to make my home
>>theater/hi-fi setup primarily HT, an afternoon with my local B&W dealer,
>>talking about the local music festival(which hes' in charge of) and
>>listening to a pair of low line beemers hooked up to some Adcom stuff
>>reignited my love of music. So please excuse an old man who has
>>rediscovered
>>the first love of his life, sound over a decent set of speakers, and
>>sometimes gets a tad too enthusiastic about the speakers that made it
>>happen
>>Just dont take it personal, its no slam on me if you prefer Paradigm, or
>>energy, or a good set of Maggies, you shouldnt consider it an insult
>>because
>>I dont prefer what you choose.
>>Lets just all agree that if you invest in a line of speakers you will be
>>ill
>>served if you dont give everything a listen, okay?
>>
>>>
>>
>
>

[Bill]

<steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> ENERGY? Well, my local dealer went to these after he lost his beemer
>> francise, and like when I first heard them that DAMNED titanium tweeter
>> was drilling through my brain in minutes.
>>
>> most Canadian speakers, they insist on using these tweeters that you could
>> shoot UFOS out of the sky with.
>> C'mon guys, have you never heard of cloth or aluminum?

Well that's odd, since I believe Energy speakers do not use titanium
tweeters at all in any of their lines.

PSB also uses aluminum tweeters exclusively. Athena uses a polyester
based material called Teteron. And Paradigm uses aluminum or composites
in most of their lines, and titanium in their monitor series. Many
people will attest to the smoothness of the monitor line and wouldn't
call them harsh.

Everyone has their own preferences, but to suggest that Canadian
companies use only titanium is not only wrong, it shows your lack of
knowledge in the industry.

>> You name it and I've listened to it

That doesn't seem at all accurate either...if you have listened to so
many speakers, you wouldn't make such erroneous comments about them.

I suspect you're just another troll looking for attention, rather than a
serious participant in these discussions...