Will Someone PLEASE Answer this HT Question?!?!? [Archive]

Mark Storkamp

08-02-2005, 01:57 AM

If I understand you correctly, you are disconnecting the 100w speakers from
the 'home theatre system' and connecting them to your TV? If that's the
case, that is not how it's meant to be done.

100w in the speaker rating is the wattage they are designed to handle from a
receiver. They don't have amplifiers of their own in them. They won't by
themselves make your TV any louder.

If you connect the 'line out' from your TV to a set of inputs in the 'home
theatre system', then yes, the dialogue (and everything else) should be
louder as it comes out of the speakers connected to the receiver.

"KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:U5CNd.1989$ng6.638@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> Helllo,
>
> I am asking again, hoping I get an answer, as this is why I joined this
> group. Can someone please tell me if I buy a home theatre system that has
> 100 watt speakers, will it increase the sound from my tv (especially
> dialogue volume) that has 1.2 watt speakers?
>
> I ask because when I connected it (JVC AV27530 TV) to the speakers for my
> Panasonic Stereo (30 watts), it was louder, but nearly as loud as when the
> stereo tuner was connected.
>
> My living room is 16x20.
>
> Here is the link to the system sold by Radio Shack: Sony
HTDDW660...........
>
>
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=&p
> roduct%5Fid=31%2D5039&hmcf=main
>
>
> Thanks for all replies.
>
> God bless,
> KJ
>
>

rdclark

08-02-2005, 03:38 AM

08-02-2005, 04:35 AM

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the reply....

I am considering getting a 'home theatre system' because my TV in my living
room is not loud enough.

The system I want to purchase seemed to be a solution, as the watts on my TV
are 1.2 watt and the home theatre system is 100 watt, and the added bass et.
all is a plus.

You answered my question, as yes I would connect the TV to the reciver in
the before mentioned system and am hoping to get a much louder sound, esp.
for dialogue.

Thanks again.

God bless,
KJ

"Mark Storkamp" <marks@nettworknospammfg.com> wrote in message
news:42077bae@news.cloudnet.com...
> If I understand you correctly, you are disconnecting the 100w speakers
> from
> the 'home theatre system' and connecting them to your TV? If that's the
> case, that is not how it's meant to be done.
>
> 100w in the speaker rating is the wattage they are designed to handle from
> a
> receiver. They don't have amplifiers of their own in them. They won't by
> themselves make your TV any louder.
>
> If you connect the 'line out' from your TV to a set of inputs in the 'home
> theatre system', then yes, the dialogue (and everything else) should be
> louder as it comes out of the speakers connected to the receiver.
>

08-02-2005, 05:58 AM

Hello RichC,

> Run a pair of patch cables from these jacks to an input on your stereo
> receiver (AUX, Tape In, or any other high-level input; not "phono").
> Turn the volume on the TV all the way down, select that input on your
> stereo, and turn the stereo's volume up. You should hear the TV on your
> stereo, at comparable volumes to other sources like CDs and tapes.
> Turn the volume on the TV all the way down, select that input on your
> stereo, and turn the stereo's volume up. You should hear the TV on your
> stereo, at comparable volumes to other sources like CDs and tapes.
>

First of all, the speakers connected to the stereo are connected as just
wires, not RCA jacks, so they have always been connected with the same
setup.

Second, I have done what you said (there is only one extra set of inputs
[AUX] on the back of the stereo to connect anything to) and this is what I
used. The TV was connected to the AUX and the TV sound was turned down, the
stereo speakers still played the TV only a little louder than the TV
speakers. Again, when I left the volume the same and clicked on 'cd',
'tuner', et. the sound was extremely loud, much louder than the sound coming
from AUX.

I know the issue isn't the stereo because I have an external cd 200 disk
changer that plays just as loud as the tuner, cd, et. when connected to AUX.

Even with my other TV's, when I connect them to a stereo, the sound is only
a little louder, that is why I was considering a HT system with much higher
wattage. Yes, I would love the sound of my DVD's to be as wonderful as a
movie theatre and to hear wonderful base et. all, but what is the point if
the sound is not increased? That is why I asked the question.

> You don't need a 6-channel HT system just to make your TV louder. There
> are other reasons to invest in home theater, and if you're interested
> in surround sound from DVDs, ask separately about that.

I am to avoid buying something, getting home and not being satified because
of poor quality, another reason I asked this group. Additionally, since I
already tried various TV-stereo connections to see if one device is the
issue, it is not. For instance, I noticed that when I tried the TV on my 10
watt stereo vs. my 30 watt stereo, the sound was louder on the 30 watt, so I
figured I would get much louder sound on the Sony since it is 70 watts per
speaker along with the idea of a home theatre setup and the wonderful
experience that is supposed to come from an HT setup.

God bless,
KJ

"rdclark" <rdclark2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1107791379.243140.190370@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...

>
> Forget about speakers and watts. Reconnect your speakers to your stereo
> the way they're supposed to be. If your stereo plays CDs and tapes loud
> enough for you, you can have it do the same for your TV.
>
> Your TV has a "fixed audio output," which should be a pair of RCA jacks
> on the back labeled "Audio Out left" and "right," or something similar.
>
>
> RichC
>

Kalman Rubinson

08-02-2005, 05:58 AM

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:50:43 GMT, "KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Second, I have done what you said (there is only one extra set of inputs
>[AUX] on the back of the stereo to connect anything to) and this is what I
>used. The TV was connected to the AUX and the TV sound was turned down, the
>stereo speakers still played the TV only a little louder than the TV
>speakers. Again, when I left the volume the same and clicked on 'cd',
>'tuner', et. the sound was extremely loud, much louder than the sound coming
>from AUX.

Why did you have the TV sound turned down? Can it be turned up by the
TV's volume control? Is the audio output from the TV variable or
fixed?

If it is fixed, you need to find the menu setting to enable variable
output. If it is variable, you need to feed a higher signal voltage
to the receiver in order for the output with TV sound to be similar to
its output with other sources.

Kal

rdclark

08-02-2005, 05:58 AM

KJ wrote:

> Second, I have done what you said (there is only one extra set of
inputs
> [AUX] on the back of the stereo to connect anything to) and this is
what I
> used. The TV was connected to the AUX and the TV sound was turned
down, the
> stereo speakers still played the TV only a little louder than the TV
> speakers. Again, when I left the volume the same and clicked on
'cd',
> 'tuner', et. the sound was extremely loud, much louder than the sound
coming
> from AUX.
>
> I know the issue isn't the stereo because I have an external cd 200
disk
> changer that plays just as loud as the tuner, cd, et. when connected
to AUX.

It sounds as though the output voltage from your TV's Audio Outs is
extremely (unusually, perhaps defectively)low. It's also remotely
possible that your stereo's Aux input is unusually insensitive. The way
to check this is simply to connect another component -- a CD player or
the audio out from a VCR -- into the Aux input and see if it develops
normal volume. If it does, the problem is the TV.

Speaking of which, if you have a VCR, and it gives you plenty of volume
with the stereo, why not just use it as your TV tuner? That would
bypass the TV Audio Out problem.

Otherwise, you need something to boost the signal from the TV before it
gets to the stereo. There are line-level amplifiers out there, but I
don't know of any cheap (ie <$50 ones).

Does the TV have a headphone jack? It's not usually optimal, but
sometimes you can get a usable signal from one.

RichC

Badger

08-02-2005, 12:49 PM

Understand this, it has NOTHING to do with wattage. It has everything
to do with how you properly connect the TV to the stereo.

This is where the problem lies.
Clay

"KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TTNNd.26956$by5.13253@newssvr19.news.prodigy. com...
> Hello RichC,
>
> > Run a pair of patch cables from these jacks to an input on your
stereo
> > receiver (AUX, Tape In, or any other high-level input; not
"phono").
> > Turn the volume on the TV all the way down, select that input on
your
> > stereo, and turn the stereo's volume up. You should hear the TV on
your
> > stereo, at comparable volumes to other sources like CDs and tapes.
> > Turn the volume on the TV all the way down, select that input on
your
> > stereo, and turn the stereo's volume up. You should hear the TV on
your
> > stereo, at comparable volumes to other sources like CDs and tapes.
> >
>
>
> First of all, the speakers connected to the stereo are connected as
just
> wires, not RCA jacks, so they have always been connected with the
same
> setup.
>
> Second, I have done what you said (there is only one extra set of
inputs
> [AUX] on the back of the stereo to connect anything to) and this is
what I
> used. The TV was connected to the AUX and the TV sound was turned
down, the
> stereo speakers still played the TV only a little louder than the TV
> speakers. Again, when I left the volume the same and clicked on
'cd',
> 'tuner', et. the sound was extremely loud, much louder than the
sound coming
> from AUX.
>
> I know the issue isn't the stereo because I have an external cd 200
disk
> changer that plays just as loud as the tuner, cd, et. when connected
to AUX.
>
> Even with my other TV's, when I connect them to a stereo, the sound
is only
> a little louder, that is why I was considering a HT system with much
higher
> wattage. Yes, I would love the sound of my DVD's to be as wonderful
as a
> movie theatre and to hear wonderful base et. all, but what is the
point if
> the sound is not increased? That is why I asked the question.
>
> > You don't need a 6-channel HT system just to make your TV louder.
There
> > are other reasons to invest in home theater, and if you're
interested
> > in surround sound from DVDs, ask separately about that.
>
> I am to avoid buying something, getting home and not being satified
because
> of poor quality, another reason I asked this group. Additionally,
since I
> already tried various TV-stereo connections to see if one device is
the
> issue, it is not. For instance, I noticed that when I tried the TV
on my 10
> watt stereo vs. my 30 watt stereo, the sound was louder on the 30
watt, so I
> figured I would get much louder sound on the Sony since it is 70
watts per
> speaker along with the idea of a home theatre setup and the
wonderful
> experience that is supposed to come from an HT setup.
>
> God bless,
> KJ
>
>
> "rdclark" <rdclark2@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1107791379.243140.190370@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> >
> > Forget about speakers and watts. Reconnect your speakers to your
stereo
> > the way they're supposed to be. If your stereo plays CDs and tapes
loud
> > enough for you, you can have it do the same for your TV.
> >
> > Your TV has a "fixed audio output," which should be a pair of RCA
jacks
> > on the back labeled "Audio Out left" and "right," or something
similar.
> >
> >
> > RichC
> >
>
>

08-02-2005, 01:15 PM

Hi RichC,

Thanks for the reply. Answers below...

> It sounds as though the output voltage from your TV's Audio Outs is
> extremely (unusually, perhaps defectively)low. It's also remotely
> possible that your stereo's Aux input is unusually insensitive. The way
> to check this is simply to connect another component -- a CD player or
> the audio out from a VCR -- into the Aux input and see if it develops
> normal volume. If it does, the problem is the TV.

Yes, I compared connecting my TV to connecting my 200 disk cd changer to the
back of the stereo. The cd changer was excellent (extremely loud) and the
TV was only a little bit louder.

>
> Speaking of which, if you have a VCR, and it gives you plenty of volume
> with the stereo, why not just use it as your TV tuner? That would
> bypass the TV Audio Out problem.

You know, I double checked the sound coming from the TV when I have the VCR
on, and it is much better. Thanks.

>
> Otherwise, you need something to boost the signal from the TV before it
> gets to the stereo. There are line-level amplifiers out there, but I
> don't know of any cheap (ie <$50 ones).

Wouldn't the Sony DDW660 HT system do that?

>
> Does the TV have a headphone jack? It's not usually optimal, but
> sometimes you can get a usable signal from one.

No, the JVC dosen't have a headphone jack.

God bless,
KJ

08-02-2005, 01:30 PM

Hi Kal,

Thanks for the response.

Here is the list of product details from the website for the JVC TV:
AV-27530

a.. Audio Output 1.2 Watts x 2 Speakers
b.. Component Video Input
c.. 3 AV Inputs (2 Rear, 1 Front)
d.. Unified Remote Control
e.. 27" Diagonal Full Square Dark Tinted Picture Tube
f.. Tri-lingual On Screen Display:English, French, Spanish
g.. MTS Stereo and SAP
h.. Front Firing Bottom Speakers
i.. 3-Line Digital Comb Filter
j.. Return +
k.. Video Status Standard/Sport/Dynamic
l.. Game Mode with Direct Access Button on Remote
m.. Mult-Function Timer
n.. Sleep Timer
o.. Channel Guard
p.. Closed Caption w/Text
q.. Black Level Expansion
r.. Apacon
s.. V-Chip
t.. XDS Auto Clock Set
u.. Energy Star Compliant
v.. Hyper Scan High Speed Channel Changer
w.. S-Video Input
x.. Fixed Audio Output
y.. RF Input
z.. 2 Years Picture Tube, 1 Year Parts & Labor Warranty
aa.. Weight 68.6 lbs.
ab.. Width 25 3/4"
ac.. Height 23 3/8"
ad.. Depth 19 1/2"
ae.. Power: 113 Watts / 1.8 Amps

> If it is fixed, you need to find the menu setting to enable variable
> output. If it is variable, you need to feed a higher signal voltage
> to the receiver in order for the output with TV sound to be similar to
> its output with other sources.

I didn't notice anything in the instruction manual that tells whether it has
fixed or variable output. When I look at the volume options, there is bass,
treble and balance. The other options are Stereo, SAP, Mono and MTS (multi
television sound).

According to the manual, MTS "allows several audio signals to be broadcast
at once, giving you a choice in what you wish to hear with a TV program. In
addition to mono or stereo sound, an MTS broadcast may also include a aecond
audio porgram (SAP)." That is all it said about MTS.

> Why did you have the TV sound turned down? Can it be turned up by the
> TV's volume control? Is the audio output from the TV variable or
> fixed?

I just had the sound turned temporarily down for a few minutes to see if I
could get better sound from the stereo-only as per RichC's instructions, it
was just a test to see how it would turn out. I also turned up the TV
volume to the max and it combined with the stereo, a bit better, but not
nearly as loud as when I connect the cd changer or play the radio, cassets,
et.

Would the MTS setting be the 'variable' output?

I don't see any options in the manual to 'feed a higher signal voltage'.

God bless,
KJ

"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message

08-02-2005, 01:57 PM

Hello all,

Again, thanks for all the answers. I did notice that the volume was much
better on all channels and both TV's when I turned on the vcr, and then
turned on the stereo as per Rich C's instructions. However, it was still
not nearly as loud as the stereo playing the tuner, cd's and cassets, so I
am still in need of volume increase, hopefully with HT enjoyment on a budget
model. I also want that 'theatre experience' when I am watching movies
whether DVD or not.

At this point, I need to know if the system I mentioned (Sony HT DDW6660) is
enough wattage to get me good sound (movie or dialogue) for a living room
16x20 and also to get decent volume for dialogue when I am in the attched
kitchen/dining area. The attached kitchen/dining area runs parallel to the
living room, with 2 openings and is maybe 12x20.

Should I go for higher wattage, considering I am also counting on listening
to dialogue in the kitchen while I wash dishes and eat dinner in the attched
dining section? I know the wattage will increase the sound, but I need to
get an educated guess on whether 70 watts per speaker is enough, or if I
maybe need to go to 100 watts per speaker or more. Any suggestions?

Thanks for all replies.

God bless,
KJ

Kalman Rubinson

08-02-2005, 01:57 PM

Well, the answer, in part, is here:
" x.. Fixed Audio Output"

Apparently, this fixed output is too low for the input sensitivity of
your receiver. I suspect that the issue is not the power output of it
or any other system but the need for more amplification of this low
input voltage. If it was my problem, I would insert a small voltage
amp constructed from an audio opamp and a couple of resistors.

Kal

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 02:21:03 GMT, "KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Hi Kal,
>
>Thanks for the response.
>
>Here is the list of product details from the website for the JVC TV:
>AV-27530
>
>
>
> a.. Audio Output 1.2 Watts x 2 Speakers
> b.. Component Video Input
> c.. 3 AV Inputs (2 Rear, 1 Front)
> d.. Unified Remote Control
> e.. 27" Diagonal Full Square Dark Tinted Picture Tube
> f.. Tri-lingual On Screen Display:English, French, Spanish
> g.. MTS Stereo and SAP
> h.. Front Firing Bottom Speakers
> i.. 3-Line Digital Comb Filter
> j.. Return +
> k.. Video Status Standard/Sport/Dynamic
> l.. Game Mode with Direct Access Button on Remote
> m.. Mult-Function Timer
> n.. Sleep Timer
> o.. Channel Guard
> p.. Closed Caption w/Text
> q.. Black Level Expansion
> r.. Apacon
> s.. V-Chip
> t.. XDS Auto Clock Set
> u.. Energy Star Compliant
> v.. Hyper Scan High Speed Channel Changer
> w.. S-Video Input
> x.. Fixed Audio Output
> y.. RF Input
> z.. 2 Years Picture Tube, 1 Year Parts & Labor Warranty
> aa.. Weight 68.6 lbs.
> ab.. Width 25 3/4"
> ac.. Height 23 3/8"
> ad.. Depth 19 1/2"
> ae.. Power: 113 Watts / 1.8 Amps
>
>> If it is fixed, you need to find the menu setting to enable variable
>> output. If it is variable, you need to feed a higher signal voltage
>> to the receiver in order for the output with TV sound to be similar to
>> its output with other sources.
>
>I didn't notice anything in the instruction manual that tells whether it has
>fixed or variable output. When I look at the volume options, there is bass,
>treble and balance. The other options are Stereo, SAP, Mono and MTS (multi
>television sound).
>
>According to the manual, MTS "allows several audio signals to be broadcast
>at once, giving you a choice in what you wish to hear with a TV program. In
>addition to mono or stereo sound, an MTS broadcast may also include a aecond
>audio porgram (SAP)." That is all it said about MTS.
>
>> Why did you have the TV sound turned down? Can it be turned up by the
>> TV's volume control? Is the audio output from the TV variable or
>> fixed?
>
>I just had the sound turned temporarily down for a few minutes to see if I
>could get better sound from the stereo-only as per RichC's instructions, it
>was just a test to see how it would turn out. I also turned up the TV
>volume to the max and it combined with the stereo, a bit better, but not
>nearly as loud as when I connect the cd changer or play the radio, cassets,
>et.
>
>Would the MTS setting be the 'variable' output?
>
>I don't see any options in the manual to 'feed a higher signal voltage'.
>
>God bless,
>KJ
>
>
>"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message
>

Kalman Rubinson

08-02-2005, 01:57 PM

100watts is about 1.5dB more than 70w and, therefore, not
significantly louder. Besides, the numbers quoted for such packaged
systems are not reliable. You would be better off going to the store,
turning it up and seeing if it is loud enough for you. See if you can
get them to turn on the washing machines at the same time. ;-)

Kal

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 02:35:01 GMT, "KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>Again, thanks for all the answers. I did notice that the volume was much
>better on all channels and both TV's when I turned on the vcr, and then
>turned on the stereo as per Rich C's instructions. However, it was still
>not nearly as loud as the stereo playing the tuner, cd's and cassets, so I
>am still in need of volume increase, hopefully with HT enjoyment on a budget
>model. I also want that 'theatre experience' when I am watching movies
>whether DVD or not.
>
>At this point, I need to know if the system I mentioned (Sony HT DDW6660) is
>enough wattage to get me good sound (movie or dialogue) for a living room
>16x20 and also to get decent volume for dialogue when I am in the attched
>kitchen/dining area. The attached kitchen/dining area runs parallel to the
>living room, with 2 openings and is maybe 12x20.
>
>Should I go for higher wattage, considering I am also counting on listening
>to dialogue in the kitchen while I wash dishes and eat dinner in the attched
>dining section? I know the wattage will increase the sound, but I need to
>get an educated guess on whether 70 watts per speaker is enough, or if I
>maybe need to go to 100 watts per speaker or more. Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks for all replies.
>
>God bless,
>KJ
>

08-02-2005, 02:56 PM

OK, will do.

Thanks.

God bless,
KJ

"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message
news:sq9g0114u7ieph6qvtg7rs2pbk0qhh6vc1@4ax.com...
> 100watts is about 1.5dB more than 70w and, therefore, not
> significantly louder. Besides, the numbers quoted for such packaged
> systems are not reliable. You would be better off going to the store,
> turning it up and seeing if it is loud enough for you. See if you can
> get them to turn on the washing machines at the same time. ;-)
>
> Kal
>

08-02-2005, 02:56 PM

Hi Clay,

I did notice when I searched on this particular HT system, several people
said that they had 'work on it' to get the really high sound. It seemed
like they had to figure out the connections, and then they loved it.

Thanks again.

God bless,
KJ

"Badger" <cferriola@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OPUNd.67995$fE4.11828645@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Understand this, it has NOTHING to do with wattage. It has everything
> to do with how you properly connect the TV to the stereo.
>
> This is where the problem lies.
> Clay
>

L Alpert

08-02-2005, 02:56 PM

"KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jmVNd.27053$by5.9186@newssvr19.news.prodigy.c om...
> Hi Kal,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Here is the list of product details from the website for the JVC TV:
> AV-27530

No digital outputs?

>
>
>
> a.. Audio Output 1.2 Watts x 2 Speakers
> b.. Component Video Input
> c.. 3 AV Inputs (2 Rear, 1 Front)
> d.. Unified Remote Control
> e.. 27" Diagonal Full Square Dark Tinted Picture Tube
> f.. Tri-lingual On Screen Display:English, French, Spanish
> g.. MTS Stereo and SAP
> h.. Front Firing Bottom Speakers
> i.. 3-Line Digital Comb Filter
> j.. Return +
> k.. Video Status Standard/Sport/Dynamic
> l.. Game Mode with Direct Access Button on Remote
> m.. Mult-Function Timer
> n.. Sleep Timer
> o.. Channel Guard
> p.. Closed Caption w/Text
> q.. Black Level Expansion
> r.. Apacon
> s.. V-Chip
> t.. XDS Auto Clock Set
> u.. Energy Star Compliant
> v.. Hyper Scan High Speed Channel Changer
> w.. S-Video Input
> x.. Fixed Audio Output
> y.. RF Input
> z.. 2 Years Picture Tube, 1 Year Parts & Labor Warranty
> aa.. Weight 68.6 lbs.
> ab.. Width 25 3/4"
> ac.. Height 23 3/8"
> ad.. Depth 19 1/2"
> ae.. Power: 113 Watts / 1.8 Amps
>
>> If it is fixed, you need to find the menu setting to enable variable
>> output. If it is variable, you need to feed a higher signal voltage
>> to the receiver in order for the output with TV sound to be similar to
>> its output with other sources.
>
> I didn't notice anything in the instruction manual that tells whether it
> has fixed or variable output. When I look at the volume options, there is
> bass, treble and balance. The other options are Stereo, SAP, Mono and MTS
> (multi television sound).
>
> According to the manual, MTS "allows several audio signals to be
> broadcast at once, giving you a choice in what you wish to hear with a TV
> program. In addition to mono or stereo sound, an MTS broadcast may also
> include a aecond audio porgram (SAP)." That is all it said about MTS.
>
>> Why did you have the TV sound turned down? Can it be turned up by the
>> TV's volume control? Is the audio output from the TV variable or
>> fixed?
>
> I just had the sound turned temporarily down for a few minutes to see if I
> could get better sound from the stereo-only as per RichC's instructions,
> it was just a test to see how it would turn out. I also turned up the TV
> volume to the max and it combined with the stereo, a bit better, but not
> nearly as loud as when I connect the cd changer or play the radio,
> cassets, et.
>
> Would the MTS setting be the 'variable' output?
>
> I don't see any options in the manual to 'feed a higher signal voltage'.
>
> God bless,
> KJ
>
>
> "Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message
>

09-02-2005, 04:36 AM

Hi L Alpert,

> No digital outputs?
>
>

As far as I can tell, no, no digital outputs.

God bless,
KJ

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in message
news:afqdndnlD7JUq5XfRVn-gA@comcast.com...

>>
>> Here is the list of product details from the website for the JVC TV:
>> AV-27530
>
> No digital outputs?
>
>>
>> a.. Audio Output 1.2 Watts x 2 Speakers
>> b.. Component Video Input
>> c.. 3 AV Inputs (2 Rear, 1 Front)
>> d.. Unified Remote Control
>> e.. 27" Diagonal Full Square Dark Tinted Picture Tube
>> f.. Tri-lingual On Screen Display:English, French, Spanish
>> g.. MTS Stereo and SAP
>> h.. Front Firing Bottom Speakers
>> i.. 3-Line Digital Comb Filter
>> j.. Return +
>> k.. Video Status Standard/Sport/Dynamic
>> l.. Game Mode with Direct Access Button on Remote
>> m.. Mult-Function Timer
>> n.. Sleep Timer
>> o.. Channel Guard
>> p.. Closed Caption w/Text
>> q.. Black Level Expansion
>> r.. Apacon
>> s.. V-Chip
>> t.. XDS Auto Clock Set
>> u.. Energy Star Compliant
>> v.. Hyper Scan High Speed Channel Changer
>> w.. S-Video Input
>> x.. Fixed Audio Output
>> y.. RF Input
>> z.. 2 Years Picture Tube, 1 Year Parts & Labor Warranty
>> aa.. Weight 68.6 lbs.
>> ab.. Width 25 3/4"
>> ac.. Height 23 3/8"
>> ad.. Depth 19 1/2"
>> ae.. Power: 113 Watts / 1.8 Amps
>>

Rich Clark

09-02-2005, 06:10 AM

KJ, I just want to emphasize a point.

IF

1) The stereo can play loud enough using a line level source like a cassette
deck, a CD player, or a VCR plugged into its AUX input,

BUT

2) The voltage coming from the audio outputs of your TV is not sufficient to
drive that same input sufficiently to develop comparable listening levels,

THEN

3) It is unlikely that those TV outputs can drive an Aux input on *any*
receiver sufficiently to provide proper performance.

COROLLARY:

Even if you bought a system powerful enough to create the desired volume
from this insufficient input, it would be a BAD IDEA to use it this way. You
would have the volume turned so high that all it would take would be one
mistake -- switching to the FM tuner without turning the volume down first,
for example -- to conceivably destroy your system and possibly your hearing.

I don't know why the level from the TV is so low. Bad design. Defective
component. Incorrect menu setting of some kind. But that's where the problem
is, and buying a home theater system, while a worthwhile goal in its own
right, won't solve it.

RichC

neilnewsgroups@hotmail.com

09-02-2005, 06:10 AM

KJ wrote:
> Helllo,
>
> I am asking again, hoping I get an answer, as this is why I joined
this
> group. Can someone please tell me if I buy a home theatre system
that has
> 100 watt speakers, will it increase the sound from my tv (especially
> dialogue volume) that has 1.2 watt speakers?
>
> I ask because when I connected it (JVC AV27530 TV)

Does your JVC TV have the JVC "AV Compu Link" feature? If so, that will
be mentioned in the manual and you'll see the AV Compu Link connectors
on the back of the TV.

If you have the AV Compu Link feature, you can connect your JVC TV to
other components (such as a JVC DVD player or a JVC home theater
receiver) and all your JVC gear will automatically work in synch. For
example

I'd look at your JVC manual or TV info online, but I don't see it here:

http://books.jvcservice.com/

http://books.jvcservice.com/booklist.asp?Model=av

http://www.jvc.com:8765/jvc_query_white.html?ht=0&qp=&qs=&qc=&pw=100%25&ws=0&la=&qm=0&st=1&nh=10&lk=1&rf=0&oq=&rq=0&si=0&qt=av+27*

Anyway, if you decide to get a surround-sound system, and if your TV
has the AV Compu Link feature, I suggest you buy only JVC electronics
that have the AV Compu Link feature.

>to the speakers for my
> Panasonic Stereo (30 watts), it was louder, but nearly as loud as
when the
> stereo tuner was connected.

Does that really matter? Couldn't you just turn up the Panasonic stereo
when you watch TV, then turn it down when you listen to the tuner?

If you can turn up the volume on your TV, that may send a stronger
signal to the Panasonic TV.

Another way to go would be to connect your JVC's headphone output to
the inputs of your Panasonic stereo, if your JVC TV has a headphone
output. Then you could turn up the JVC's headphone volume and send a
stronger signal to your Panasonic stereo.

For the above, you'll need an adapter or an adapter cable from Radio
Shack or elsewhere. Something like either of the following:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=42-2550

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=274-883

If you can get the TV sound working with your Panasonic stereo, you may
find that provides plenty of volume and improved sound.

If you get a home theater system, like the Sony system in your link,
you'll also have surround sound.

I'd also suggest that if you have a friend who's savvy about stereos,
TV's, etc., you get your friend to come over and look over all your
existing gear and make sure it really is connected properly.

> My living room is 16x20.
>
> Here is the link to the system sold by Radio Shack: Sony
HTDDW660...........
>
>
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=&p
> roduct%5Fid=31%2D5039&hmcf=main
>
>
> Thanks for all replies.
>
> God bless,
> KJ

steve

09-02-2005, 09:32 AM

KJ wrote:
>
> Hi RichC,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Answers below...
>
> > It sounds as though the output voltage from your TV's Audio Outs is
> > extremely (unusually, perhaps defectively)low. It's also remotely
> > possible that your stereo's Aux input is unusually insensitive. The way
> > to check this is simply to connect another component -- a CD player or
> > the audio out from a VCR -- into the Aux input and see if it develops
> > normal volume. If it does, the problem is the TV.
>
> Yes, I compared connecting my TV to connecting my 200 disk cd changer to the
> back of the stereo. The cd changer was excellent (extremely loud) and the
> TV was only a little bit louder.
>
Try troubleshooting, replace the cable from the tv to receiver, or in a
different input in the receiver. If it's your tv having an unusually low
output signal, then use your VCR, cable box, or satellite box as an
audio feed to your receiver.

09-02-2005, 11:41 AM

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the reply.

Did that, same problem, the TV is MUCH lower than the other components I
connect. The TV is louder, but not nearly as loud as the other components.

I am using the VCR, it is better and will have to do for now.

God bless,
KJ

"steve" <combssl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4209473B.38885EB@yahoo.com...

>>
> Try troubleshooting, replace the cable from the tv to receiver, or in a
> different input in the receiver. If it's your tv having an unusually low
> output signal, then use your VCR, cable box, or satellite box as an
> audio feed to your receiver.

09-02-2005, 12:30 PM

Well, all right now! That is the explanation I was looking for!

Thank you Rich, (and everyone else for your effort). This is what I was
trying to find out, if there was an issue that needed to be corrected, or if
the TV is the main issue.......

> KJ, I just want to emphasize a point.
>
> IF
>
> 1) The stereo can play loud enough using a line level source like a
> cassette deck, a CD player, or a VCR plugged into its AUX input,
>

Yes, it can......

> BUT
>
> 2) The voltage coming from the audio outputs of your TV is not sufficient
> to drive that same input sufficiently to develop comparable listening
> levels,
>

Quite possibly........

> THEN
>
> 3) It is unlikely that those TV outputs can drive an Aux input on *any*
> receiver sufficiently to provide proper performance.

That is what I was thinking.

>
> COROLLARY:
>
> Even if you bought a system powerful enough to create the desired volume
> from this insufficient input, it would be a BAD IDEA to use it this way.
> You would have the volume turned so high that all it would take would be
> one mistake -- switching to the FM tuner without turning the volume down
> first, for example -- to conceivably destroy your system and possibly your
> hearing.
>

Yes, this is why I am concerned about using the stereo as an alternative.
That is exactly what I was afraid of. Thank you for confirming that.

> I don't know why the level from the TV is so low. Bad design. Defective
> component. Incorrect menu setting of some kind. But that's where the
> problem is, and buying a home theater system, while a worthwhile goal in
> its own right, won't solve it.

By the way, here is what my TV manual says about the sound:

"Audio Output Jacks":

{FIX; 500mVrms (-4dBs) Low impedance (400 Hz when modulated 100%).}

I will be contacting the store for warrantee inf. to get someone to check if
it is defective.

I will post if there is damage or just if that is all my TV can give. Thank
you for your time and consideration.

God bless,
KJ

09-02-2005, 01:32 PM

Hello,

> Does your JVC TV have the JVC "AV Compu Link" feature? If so, that will
> be mentioned in the manual and you'll see the AV Compu Link connectors
> on the back of the TV.

No, there is one set of outputs on the TV and it just says "audio out".
There is nothing in the manual about AV Compu Link.

>
> If you have the AV Compu Link feature, you can connect your JVC TV to
> other components (such as a JVC DVD player or a JVC home theater
> receiver) and all your JVC gear will automatically work in synch. For
> example
>
> I'd look at your JVC manual or TV info online, but I don't see it here:
>

Here is the link for my TV:

http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027145&pathId=73

>
> Anyway, if you decide to get a surround-sound system, and if your TV
> has the AV Compu Link feature, I suggest you buy only JVC electronics
> that have the AV Compu Link feature.
>

Thanks, but if this TV dosen't function better, I won't be buying anything
by JVC again!

>
> Does that really matter? Couldn't you just turn up the Panasonic stereo
> when you watch TV, then turn it down when you listen to the tuner?

Of course! But please realize that if I did that and just once accidentally
hit the 'cd' button, or the "cassette" button, or the "tuner" button, I
could blow out the stereo or my ears for that matter. It is way too risky.

>
> If you can turn up the volume on your TV, that may send a stronger
> signal to the Panasonic TV.

I tried with the volume at maximum, minumum and everything in between, it
really makes little to no difference.

>
> Another way to go would be to connect your JVC's headphone output to
> the inputs of your Panasonic stereo, if your JVC TV has a headphone
> output. Then you could turn up the JVC's headphone volume and send a
> stronger signal to your Panasonic stereo.

No headphone jack on the JVC TV, but thanks for the suggestion.

>
> For the above, you'll need an adapter or an adapter cable from Radio
> Shack or elsewhere. Something like either of the following:
>
> http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=42-2550
>
> http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=274-883
>

OK, that is good to know for other TV's. Thanks.

> If you can get the TV sound working with your Panasonic stereo, you may
> find that provides plenty of volume and improved sound.
>

Yes, that is what I was doing (TV sound through the Panasonic stereo
speakers), but to no avail, that is why I came here for help.

> I'd also suggest that if you have a friend who's savvy about stereos,
> TV's, etc., you get your friend to come over and look over all your
> existing gear and make sure it really is connected properly.

Oh Lord! Now you are insulting me! I know you aren't trying to insult me,
but you are!

I have installed many a device on my computer (which is much more
complicated that connecting 2 RCA jacks/cables on back of a stereo and TV).
I did fine! I have set up VCR's, TV's, Stereo's et. for over 11 years in my
own house, without any help. It is only this time, after the satellite TV
install that I noticed a volume problem. I wasn't sure if I had done
something, if there was a simple solution, or if there was a problem with
the setup, since that is what the guy at the store indicated. I figured the
people on this list would be good to ask if buying a HT would be the best
option to get an unbiased (nothing to do with profit) opinion.

In fact, In this whole time with this post, I haven't changed a cable or
cord! All I did was check settings and listen, in other words, I am
perfectly capable of hooking up a simple TV and stereo. I just wanted some
extra help on why the volume is unusually low. And from what I see, it is
not my hookup (which only has only one option, so is difficult to make a
mistake) but instead it appears it is an issue with my TV either not having
enough umph, or being defective.

There is only one 'output' on the TV and only one 'input' on the back of the
stereo. There is only one option in this situation. The RCA cables run
'out' of the tv and 'in' to the stereo, and still only mild improvement in
sound, nothing like the other devices I have connected.

God bless,
KJ

Rich Clark

09-02-2005, 02:00 PM

"KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:HDdOd.2811$ng6.2750@newssvr17.news.prodigy.co m...

> By the way, here is what my TV manual says about the sound:
>
> "Audio Output Jacks":
>
> {FIX; 500mVrms (-4dBs) Low impedance (400 Hz when modulated 100%).}

That should drive a normal input quite adequately.

Here's a question: are you using an antenna or a cable box or what? If it's
a cable box, does it have a volume control?

RichC

L Alpert

09-02-2005, 02:58 PM

"KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:685Od.27184$by5.17035@newssvr19.news.prodigy. com...
> Hi L Alpert,
>
>> No digital outputs?
>>
>>
>
> As far as I can tell, no, no digital outputs.
>
> God bless,
> KJ

Sorry to hear that. Good luck!

>
>
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:afqdndnlD7JUq5XfRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>
>>>
>>> Here is the list of product details from the website for the JVC TV:
>>> AV-27530
>>
>> No digital outputs?
>>
>>>
>>> a.. Audio Output 1.2 Watts x 2 Speakers
>>> b.. Component Video Input
>>> c.. 3 AV Inputs (2 Rear, 1 Front)
>>> d.. Unified Remote Control
>>> e.. 27" Diagonal Full Square Dark Tinted Picture Tube
>>> f.. Tri-lingual On Screen Display:English, French, Spanish
>>> g.. MTS Stereo and SAP
>>> h.. Front Firing Bottom Speakers
>>> i.. 3-Line Digital Comb Filter
>>> j.. Return +
>>> k.. Video Status Standard/Sport/Dynamic
>>> l.. Game Mode with Direct Access Button on Remote
>>> m.. Mult-Function Timer
>>> n.. Sleep Timer
>>> o.. Channel Guard
>>> p.. Closed Caption w/Text
>>> q.. Black Level Expansion
>>> r.. Apacon
>>> s.. V-Chip
>>> t.. XDS Auto Clock Set
>>> u.. Energy Star Compliant
>>> v.. Hyper Scan High Speed Channel Changer
>>> w.. S-Video Input
>>> x.. Fixed Audio Output
>>> y.. RF Input
>>> z.. 2 Years Picture Tube, 1 Year Parts & Labor Warranty
>>> aa.. Weight 68.6 lbs.
>>> ab.. Width 25 3/4"
>>> ac.. Height 23 3/8"
>>> ad.. Depth 19 1/2"
>>> ae.. Power: 113 Watts / 1.8 Amps
>>>
>
>

L Alpert

09-02-2005, 02:58 PM

"Rich Clark" <rdclark2SPAM@TRAPcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:ptOdnSFPr7-s5pTfRVn-vA@comcast.com...
>
> "KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:HDdOd.2811$ng6.2750@newssvr17.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>> By the way, here is what my TV manual says about the sound:
>>
>> "Audio Output Jacks":
>>
>> {FIX; 500mVrms (-4dBs) Low impedance (400 Hz when modulated 100%).}
>
> That should drive a normal input quite adequately.
>
> Here's a question: are you using an antenna or a cable box or what? If
> it's a cable box, does it have a volume control?
>
> RichC
>

If so, the box should have it's own output for sound.

10-02-2005, 04:29 AM

Hi Rich,

I am using a cable box with a TV2 setup. If you know, ignore this, but just
in case, a TV2 setup is where the box is in one room controlling one TV and
there is a wire (TV2) that runs to a second TV (through the basement). The
second wire is connected to the second TV in the other room.

When I first noticed the volume problem (just after the DishTV install) I
called Dish and asked if there is a sound adjustment on the reciever, they
said no. I called the installer and they said that sound has nothing to do
with the reciever, the reciever only transmitts picture.

The only adjustment I saw for sound was what Mindy said earlier:

Dolby Digital:
"select an external decoder"
1. dolby digital/pcm
2. dolby digital only
3. pcm only

I tried all three (before this post) and it made no difference.
Now, while I am looking at it, I cannot even chose. The selections are
there, but they are all greyed out, not giving me even the option I had
before.

this is the link for the box:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/products/receivers/dvr/index.shtml

I have the Dish 522. The brochure is there in PDF.

The TV2 (which is how this particular TV is hooked up, is wired (cable as
mentioned above) and there is a UHF mini antena that sticks out the back of
the cable box in the other room.

God bless,
KJ

"Rich Clark" <rdclark2SPAM@TRAPcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:ptOdnSFPr7-s5pTfRVn-vA@comcast.com...
>
> "KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:HDdOd.2811$ng6.2750@newssvr17.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>> By the way, here is what my TV manual says about the sound:
>>
>> "Audio Output Jacks":
>>
>> {FIX; 500mVrms (-4dBs) Low impedance (400 Hz when modulated 100%).}
>
> That should drive a normal input quite adequately.
>
> Here's a question: are you using an antenna or a cable box or what? If
> it's a cable box, does it have a volume control?
>
> RichC
>

rdclark

10-02-2005, 06:15 AM

KJ wrote:

> When I first noticed the volume problem (just after the DishTV
install) I
> called Dish and asked if there is a sound adjustment on the reciever,
they
> said no. I called the installer and they said that sound has nothing
to do
> with the reciever, the reciever only transmitts picture.

Did you start having to turn the volume on the TV itself much higher
when listening through its built in speakers, compared to using an
antenna or your old (cable or whatever)? That would indicate the
problem is not in the TV, but in the Dish unit.

You have the analog audio L/R from the Dish unit connected to the TV,
yes? What happens when you use the volume control (on the remote) for
the Dish unit? This should raise the volume not only on the TV, but the
volume coming from the TV's audio outputs.
>
> The only adjustment I saw for sound was what Mindy said earlier:
>
> Dolby Digital:
> "select an external decoder"
> 1. dolby digital/pcm
> 2. dolby digital only
> 3. pcm only
>

That menu configures the digital audio output, which you're not using.

RichC

11-02-2005, 05:09 AM

Hi RichC,

>
> Did you start having to turn the volume on the TV itself much higher
> when listening through its built in speakers, compared to using an
> antenna or your old (cable or whatever)? That would indicate the
> problem is not in the TV, but in the Dish unit.

I had to increase volume on the TV itself. Actually, all 3 of my TV's got
lower, but the one that was the biggest problem is the JVC in the
livingroom. That was why I called Dish, and talked to the installer, but
they swear that the sound is not related to the Dish reciever, they say
sound has nothing to with the box, only picture.

>
> You have the analog audio L/R from the Dish unit connected to the TV,
> yes? What happens when you use the volume control (on the remote) for
> the Dish unit? This should raise the volume not only on the TV, but the
> volume coming from the TV's audio outputs.

The A/V from the Dish is not connected to the livingroom TV. The installer
never connected it (or suggested it for that matter) and it would require
RCA wires that were maybe 20 feet long (to run from the bedroom through the
basement and into the livingroom).

I am looked at the manual for the Dish reciever, there are 2 sets of RCA out
audio/video outputs, one for each TV. This completely contradicts what the
installer told me.

I think I should buy some 25' rca cables and connect, see if they make a
difference and go from there? Does that sound right?

I am also going to call the installer and ask about this, as this makes no
sense when the RCA jacks are right there. It seems more like they didn't
want to finish the job.

please do tell what you think.

>>
>> The only adjustment I saw for sound was what Mindy said earlier:
>>
>> Dolby Digital:
>> "select an external decoder"
>> 1. dolby digital/pcm
>> 2. dolby digital only
>> 3. pcm only
>>
>
> That menu configures the digital audio output, which you're not using.
>
> RichC
>

Yeah, I got that, that is what the Dish people told me too.

God bless,
KJ

rdclark

11-02-2005, 05:09 AM

KJ,

I still would like to know what happens when you use the Dish remote's
volume control.

RichC

steve

11-02-2005, 05:09 AM

rdclark wrote:
>
> KJ,
>
> I still would like to know what happens when you use the Dish remote's
> volume control.
>
> RichC

I had a Dish 522 (currently 721) and if I recall correctly, there is no
volume adjustment for the receiver. I used the A/V outputs to my tv and
digital to the receiver and had normal audio levels (compared to other
sources)

Since you are using the coax input, see if you get the same low volume
level with antenna reception, then I'd suspect the tv, if not, have Dish
replace the 522.

11-02-2005, 11:59 AM

You mean 100 watt AMPLIFIERS to drive a set of ht speakers.
Actually 100 watts isnt going to sound much louder than a good 30 watt amp,
but you dont go with a 100 watt amp for loudness, you go to have plenty of
"gas" for dynamic full, sound when its called for. Also the higher the amp
power the less chance you have of something called "clipping" happening to
your speakers, which means underdriving them, which can actually be as bad
for them as too much power.
T.V speakers are for backup, the only reason you use them is when your
regular rig is in the shop.
But be warned, if you get into HT it can cost some serious coin. You might
want to try one of those HT in a dbox systems, the only one of which I can
reccomend is one by Denon which looks quite nice
"KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:U5CNd.1989$ng6.638@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> Helllo,
>
> I am asking again, hoping I get an answer, as this is why I joined this
> group. Can someone please tell me if I buy a home theatre system that has
> 100 watt speakers, will it increase the sound from my tv (especially
> dialogue volume) that has 1.2 watt speakers?
>
> I ask because when I connected it (JVC AV27530 TV) to the speakers for my
> Panasonic Stereo (30 watts), it was louder, but nearly as loud as when the
> stereo tuner was connected.
>
> My living room is 16x20.
>
> Here is the link to the system sold by Radio Shack: Sony
HTDDW660...........
>
>
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=&p
> roduct%5Fid=31%2D5039&hmcf=main
>
>
> Thanks for all replies.
>
> God bless,
> KJ
>
>

11-02-2005, 11:59 AM

Hi RichC,

When the volume button is pressed, the TV volume goes up or down (can see
the little pic of the volume moving back and forth).

I spoke to the Dish people right after the last post, and they were going to
come up and connect the RCA cables to the TV 2 (through the basement), but
then decided to change the dish reciever. I will get the replacement on
Mon.

I will post if it is OK or not.

Thanks for the time and help.

God bless,
KJ

rdclark wrote in message
<1108053504.176893.31360@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.c om>...
>KJ,
>
>I still would like to know what happens when you use the Dish remote's
>volume control.
>
>RichC
>

11-02-2005, 12:16 PM

Hi Steve,

When the volume button is pressed, the TV volume goes up or down (can see
the little pic of the volume moving back and forth from the TV).

I spoke to the Dish people right after the last post, and they were going to
come up and connect the RCA cables to the TV 2 (through the basement), but
then decided to change the dish reciever. I will get the replacement on
Mon.

>Since you are using the coax input, see if you get the same low volume
>level with antenna reception, then I'd suspect the tv, if not, have Dish
>replace the 522.

I am not sure what you mean about the antenna reception. Please explain.

Just in case, the TV2 and mirrored TV3 is both low volume, so that is what
made the Dish installer decide to have a new reciever sent to me.

Thanks again.

God bless,
KJ

steve wrote in message <420BA7B4.73F96A5A@yahoo.com>...

>I had a Dish 522 (currently 721) and if I recall correctly, there is no
>volume adjustment for the receiver. I used the A/V outputs to my tv and
>digital to the receiver and had normal audio levels (compared to other
>sources)
>
>Since you are using the coax input, see if you get the same low volume
>level with antenna reception, then I'd suspect the tv, if not, have Dish
>replace the 522.

steve

12-02-2005, 04:02 AM

KJ wrote:

>
> >Since you are using the coax input, see if you get the same low volume
> >level with antenna reception, then I'd suspect the tv, if not, have Dish
> >replace the 522.
>
> I am not sure what you mean about the antenna reception. Please explain.

The coax or "antenna" input on your tv is an "RF" input, using the tuner
section of your tv to watch a channel. In the case of a VCR, cable box,
or satellite, its usually preset for channel 3 or 4.

Wnen you connect an antenna to the coax input, then you will receive any
channels broadcasting in your vicinity. Try this and see if your tv
still has the same low volume with a local station. If so, the tv tuner
section is causing low volume. If not, hopefully another 522 will
correct it.

12-02-2005, 04:24 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: "steve"
> Wnen you connect an antenna to the coax input, then you will receive any
> channels broadcasting in your vicinity. Try this and see if your tv
> still has the same low volume with a local station. If so, the tv tuner
> section is causing low volume. If not, hopefully another 522 will
> correct it.

OK Steve. Thanks.

I will have my new box Mon. and will know for sure then if it was the box
all along.

God bless,
KJ

RKRM

14-02-2005, 06:23 AM

"KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:U5CNd.1989$ng6.638@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> Helllo,
>
> I am asking again, hoping I get an answer, as this is why I joined this
> group. Can someone please tell me if I buy a home theatre system that has
> 100 watt speakers, will it increase the sound from my tv (especially
> dialogue volume) that has 1.2 watt speakers?
>
> I ask because when I connected it (JVC AV27530 TV) to the speakers for my
> Panasonic Stereo (30 watts), it was louder, but nearly as loud as when the
> stereo tuner was connected.
>
> My living room is 16x20.
>
> Here is the link to the system sold by Radio Shack: Sony
> HTDDW660...........
>
> http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=&p
> roduct%5Fid=31%2D5039&hmcf=main
>
>
> Thanks for all replies.

Well I am not sure how your system works but the way I have always done it
(First with stereo then stero and a sub then dolby pro logic and now dolby
5.1/dts) is to "disable" the tv's speakers. Most tv's have an option to turn
off or disable the internal speakers. My last tv which was a 32" JVC AV-3230
allowed me to turn off the speakers but if I turned the volume all the way
down it would effect the output from the pro-logic receiver. There should be
an output for sound on your tv - run this into your stereo. That is a simple
way to make a huge leap in sound quality. And as far as HTIB is concerned
avoid the ones with built in dvd players and might I suggest a few bucks
more for a little better HTIB/POSIB or piece of shit in a box.This Onkyo is
what I have http://tinyurl.com/5t7s8 it has been a nice step up from my
previous very old 25 watt prologic system. I now have an HDTV and run all my
sound through my receiver completely by passing my tv. It's the only way to
go. Good luck.
>
> God bless,
> KJ
>
>

RKRM

14-02-2005, 06:23 AM

"KJ" <peacej16@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jmVNd.27053$by5.9186@newssvr19.news.prodigy.c om...
> Hi Kal,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Here is the list of product details from the website for the JVC TV:
> AV-27530

I also had a JVC there is an option to turn off the speakers. BUT you will
have to turn up the volume as it is NOT a fixed output (assuming it works
like my old JVC AV 3230 there should be an option of TV Speakers on or off.
I kept my volume at about 20 to 25. That way I had decent sound from my
stereo. To low and it didn't work. To loud and it distoted. Though the
speakers played NO sound the volume controlled the output to the stereo.
>
>
>
> a.. Audio Output 1.2 Watts x 2 Speakers
> b.. Component Video Input
> c.. 3 AV Inputs (2 Rear, 1 Front)
> d.. Unified Remote Control
> e.. 27" Diagonal Full Square Dark Tinted Picture Tube
> f.. Tri-lingual On Screen Display:English, French, Spanish
> g.. MTS Stereo and SAP
> h.. Front Firing Bottom Speakers
> i.. 3-Line Digital Comb Filter
> j.. Return +
> k.. Video Status Standard/Sport/Dynamic
> l.. Game Mode with Direct Access Button on Remote
> m.. Mult-Function Timer
> n.. Sleep Timer
> o.. Channel Guard
> p.. Closed Caption w/Text
> q.. Black Level Expansion
> r.. Apacon
> s.. V-Chip
> t.. XDS Auto Clock Set
> u.. Energy Star Compliant
> v.. Hyper Scan High Speed Channel Changer
> w.. S-Video Input
> x.. Fixed Audio Output
> y.. RF Input
> z.. 2 Years Picture Tube, 1 Year Parts & Labor Warranty
> aa.. Weight 68.6 lbs.
> ab.. Width 25 3/4"
> ac.. Height 23 3/8"
> ad.. Depth 19 1/2"
> ae.. Power: 113 Watts / 1.8 Amps
>
>> If it is fixed, you need to find the menu setting to enable variable
>> output. If it is variable, you need to feed a higher signal voltage
>> to the receiver in order for the output with TV sound to be similar to
>> its output with other sources.
>
> I didn't notice anything in the instruction manual that tells whether it
> has fixed or variable output. When I look at the volume options, there is
> bass, treble and balance. The other options are Stereo, SAP, Mono and MTS
> (multi television sound).
>
> According to the manual, MTS "allows several audio signals to be
> broadcast at once, giving you a choice in what you wish to hear with a TV
> program. In addition to mono or stereo sound, an MTS broadcast may also
> include a aecond audio porgram (SAP)." That is all it said about MTS.
>
>> Why did you have the TV sound turned down? Can it be turned up by the
>> TV's volume control? Is the audio output from the TV variable or
>> fixed?
>
> I just had the sound turned temporarily down for a few minutes to see if I
> could get better sound from the stereo-only as per RichC's instructions,
> it was just a test to see how it would turn out. I also turned up the TV
> volume to the max and it combined with the stereo, a bit better, but not
> nearly as loud as when I connect the cd changer or play the radio,
> cassets, et.
>
> Would the MTS setting be the 'variable' output?
>
> I don't see any options in the manual to 'feed a higher signal voltage'.
>
> God bless,
> KJ
>
>
> "Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message
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