HD STANDARD IN 2009 MANDITORY

[mykeymykey01@yahoo.com]

Are you ready to throw away your TV and spend thousands on
a new HDTV? that is the plan in 2009, when FCC will make
HD broadcast mandatory. Sorry the TV you have now wont
work anymore without an "adapter".
This I feel is unfair to the general public since there is nothing
wrong with our current NTSC standard broadcast system.
HDTV should be optional, not mandatory. Why should I need
to shell out all that money to buy one of these (unreliable)
HDTVs?
HDTV looks cool, but the only ones benefiting are manufacturers
in Japan. If rich people want to buy it, let em'. I want to keep
my Sony 11 inch TV, cause it wont break for another 10 years.

[Gandalf]

mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:
> Are you ready to throw away your TV and spend thousands on
> a new HDTV? that is the plan in 2009, when FCC will make
> HD broadcast mandatory. Sorry the TV you have now wont
> work anymore without an "adapter".
> This I feel is unfair to the general public since there is nothing
> wrong with our current NTSC standard broadcast system.
> HDTV should be optional, not mandatory. Why should I need
> to shell out all that money to buy one of these (unreliable)
> HDTVs?
> HDTV looks cool, but the only ones benefiting are manufacturers
> in Japan. If rich people want to buy it, let em'. I want to keep
> my Sony 11 inch TV, cause it wont break for another 10 years.
>

Make sure you parallel wire 5 Bose speakers to the headphone jack output.
That way you'll have state-of-the-art sound for another 10 years as well.

--
-Gandalf

Never meddle in the affairs of a dragon for you are crunchy and taste
good with ketchup!

[cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net]

mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:
> Are you ready to throw away your TV and spend thousands on
> a new HDTV? that is the plan in 2009, when FCC will make
> HD broadcast mandatory. Sorry the TV you have now wont
> work anymore without an "adapter".
> This I feel is unfair to the general public since there is nothing
> wrong with our current NTSC standard broadcast system.
> HDTV should be optional, not mandatory. Why should I need
> to shell out all that money to buy one of these (unreliable)
> HDTVs?
> HDTV looks cool, but the only ones benefiting are manufacturers
> in Japan. If rich people want to buy it, let em'. I want to keep
> my Sony 11 inch TV, cause it wont break for another 10 years.

Before you shoot your mouth off, you should at least get your facts right. HDTV is not what is going to be mandatory, ASTC is.
That means digital signals, not analog ones like those in use now. No one said anything about them having to be HD.
The set you have now will work fine, but you will need to get a digital receiver to get those digital signals.
The smart money is that the government will offer subsidies to those that cannot afford to buy one.
NOw grow up and stop trolling the newsgroup.

Chip

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[mykeymykey01@yahoo.com]

>
> Before you shoot your mouth off, you should at least get your facts right. HDTV is not what is going to be mandatory, ASTC is.
> That means digital signals, not analog ones like those in use now. No one said anything about them having to be HD.
> The set you have now will work fine, but you will need to get a digital receiver to get those digital signals.
> The smart money is that the government will offer subsidies to those that cannot afford to buy one.
> NOw grow up and stop trolling the newsgroup.
>
> Chip

I dont want your very unreliable HD TVs
And I dont want to pay for digital cable either!
Regular cable TV costs too much already.
Will ask that your HD signal remain optional
for at least the next ten years.
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[Robert Gammon]

cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net wrote:
> mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Are you ready to throw away your TV and spend thousands on
>> a new HDTV? that is the plan in 2009, when FCC will make
>> HD broadcast mandatory. Sorry the TV you have now wont
>> work anymore without an "adapter".
>> This I feel is unfair to the general public since there is nothing
>> wrong with our current NTSC standard broadcast system.
>> HDTV should be optional, not mandatory. Why should I need
>> to shell out all that money to buy one of these (unreliable)
>> HDTVs?
>> HDTV looks cool, but the only ones benefiting are manufacturers
>> in Japan. If rich people want to buy it, let em'. I want to keep
>> my Sony 11 inch TV, cause it wont break for another 10 years.
>>
>
> Before you shoot your mouth off, you should at least get your facts right. HDTV is not what is going to be mandatory, ASTC is.
> That means digital signals, not analog ones like those in use now. No one said anything about them having to be HD.
> The set you have now will work fine, but you will need to get a digital receiver to get those digital signals.
> The smart money is that the government will offer subsidies to those that cannot afford to buy one.
> NOw grow up and stop trolling the newsgroup.
>
> Chip
>
>
Betcha by that time, the $135 19inch TV at Walmart has an ATSC tuner in
it, AND somebody will figure out how to subsidize the sale of ATSC
tuners to get a retail take away price of $50 with a voucher.

Cheapest models with ATSC tuners right now at Walmart.com are a Sanyo
and an RCA LCD 26" at just under $700.

Given that they are selling Tatung 17" LCDs for $300, it doesn't take
much to see a 17"LCD panel with ATSC tuner for about $400 in a year.

[cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net]

Robert Gammon <rgammon51@yahoo.com> wrote:
> cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net wrote:
> > mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >> Are you ready to throw away your TV and spend thousands on
> >> a new HDTV? that is the plan in 2009, when FCC will make
> >> HD broadcast mandatory. Sorry the TV you have now wont
> >> work anymore without an "adapter".
> >> This I feel is unfair to the general public since there is nothing
> >> wrong with our current NTSC standard broadcast system.
> >> HDTV should be optional, not mandatory. Why should I need
> >> to shell out all that money to buy one of these (unreliable)
> >> HDTVs?
> >> HDTV looks cool, but the only ones benefiting are manufacturers
> >> in Japan. If rich people want to buy it, let em'. I want to keep
> >> my Sony 11 inch TV, cause it wont break for another 10 years.
> >>
> >
> > Before you shoot your mouth off, you should at least get your facts
> > right. HDTV is not what is going to be mandatory, ASTC is. That means
> > digital signals, not analog ones like those in use now. No one said
> > anything about them having to be HD. The set you have now will work
> > fine, but you will need to get a digital receiver to get those digital
> > signals. The smart money is that the government will offer subsidies to
> > those that cannot afford to buy one. NOw grow up and stop trolling the
> > newsgroup.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
> Betcha by that time, the $135 19inch TV at Walmart has an ATSC tuner in
> it, AND somebody will figure out how to subsidize the sale of ATSC
> tuners to get a retail take away price of $50 with a voucher.
>
> Cheapest models with ATSC tuners right now at Walmart.com are a Sanyo
> and an RCA LCD 26" at just under $700.
>
> Given that they are selling Tatung 17" LCDs for $300, it doesn't take
> much to see a 17"LCD panel with ATSC tuner for about $400 in a year.

Actually they have an ilo 27" sd atsc for $247. Not the best, but very
cheap.

Chip

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[mykeymykey01@yahoo.com]

The circuitry in these new TVs is unreliable
and they are removed to the repair shop
very often. The average backlog is 6-10
weeks, and the carbon from fireplace smoke
makes them even more unreliable. Some of
these manufactured by Panasonic have 5
or more cooling fans installed, internal
and external, in an attempt to prevent
semiconductors from overheating. When
these (many) manufacturers build a
product that lasts, and create repair centers
to service them, only then will I recommend
people buy them. When the price becomes
within the realm of affordability, then the average
person can afford to make this switchover.
When digital cable costs the same (or less) than
regular cable does now, only then will I hook up
to it. Until then, I object. I do not believe the
government will make subsidies to relieve
the very high cost of this change-over, at least
not to an average person like me and 290 other
million Americans like me.

[dargo]

On 20 Oct 2006 16:04:24 -0700, mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:

What a troll.

>Are you ready to throw away your TV and spend thousands on
>a new HDTV?

Just saw a hdtv at walmart for $300

> that is the plan in 2009, when FCC will make
>HD broadcast mandatory. Sorry the TV you have now wont
>work anymore without an "adapter".
>This I feel is unfair to the general public since there is nothing
>wrong with our current NTSC standard broadcast system.

There is nothing wrong with candles but I bet you use light bulbs
NTSC "never the same color" is 1940's tech at best

>HDTV should be optional, not mandatory.

It is optional any NTSC TV will still work with DVD, Cable or
Satellite only over the air is being changed and it's about time.

> Why should I need
>to shell out all that money to buy one of these (unreliable)
>HDTVs?

unreliable??? mine has worked perfect for 5 years, can't say that for
my American made car

>HDTV looks cool, but the only ones benefiting are manufacturers
>in Japan. If rich people want to buy it, let em'. I want to keep
>my Sony 11 inch TV, cause it wont break for another 10 years.

your Sony 11 inch was made in Japan and you can still use it for
another 10 years.

I bet your grandfather was against the horseless carriage

[Robert Gammon]

mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:
> The circuitry in these new TVs is unreliable
> and they are removed to the repair shop
> very often. The average backlog is 6-10
> weeks, and the carbon from fireplace smoke
> makes them even more unreliable. Some of
> these manufactured by Panasonic have 5
> or more cooling fans installed, internal
> and external, in an attempt to prevent
> semiconductors from overheating. When
> these (many) manufacturers build a
> product that lasts, and create repair centers
> to service them, only then will I recommend
> people buy them. When the price becomes
> within the realm of affordability, then the average
> person can afford to make this switchover.
> When digital cable costs the same (or less) than
> regular cable does now, only then will I hook up
> to it. Until then, I object. I do not believe the
> government will make subsidies to relieve
> the very high cost of this change-over, at least
> not to an average person like me and 290 other
> million Americans like me.
>
>
By 2009, enough sets will have been built that reliability figures will
improve so long as folks stay away from the ridiculous over the
fireplace TV location (Hey, it looks just like the mirror we took down
when it is off appears to be the justification)

An additional reliability improvement comes from the use of LED lamps.
LEDs cut the heat from LCD and RPTV lamps enormously, and will allow
more cooling to be directed at the semiconductors. The first set to use
this technology is the Samsung 56" DLP RPTV.

And yes, we need 19" to 26" TVs with ATSC tuners in them for prices well
under $300, and with reliability statistics that closely match those for
NTSC TVs

[Robert Gammon]

dargo wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2006 16:04:24 -0700, mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> What a troll.
>
>
>> Are you ready to throw away your TV and spend thousands on
>> a new HDTV?
>>
>
> Just saw a hdtv at walmart for $300
>
>
>> that is the plan in 2009, when FCC will make
>> HD broadcast mandatory. Sorry the TV you have now wont
>> work anymore without an "adapter".
>> This I feel is unfair to the general public since there is nothing
>> wrong with our current NTSC standard broadcast system.
>>
>
> There is nothing wrong with candles but I bet you use light bulbs
> NTSC "never the same color" is 1940's tech at best
>
>
>> HDTV should be optional, not mandatory.
>>
>
> It is optional any NTSC TV will still work with DVD, Cable or
> Satellite only over the air is being changed and it's about time.
>
>
>> Why should I need
>> to shell out all that money to buy one of these (unreliable)
>> HDTVs?
>>
>
> unreliable??? mine has worked perfect for 5 years, can't say that for
> my American made car
>
>
>> HDTV looks cool, but the only ones benefiting are manufacturers
>> in Japan. If rich people want to buy it, let em'. I want to keep
>> my Sony 11 inch TV, cause it wont break for another 10 years.
>>
>
> your Sony 11 inch was made in Japan and you can still use it for
> another 10 years.
>
> I bet your grandfather was against the horseless carriage
>
Ahh, but will standard cable, standard Satellite have a market once the
switch is made??

Will there be enough nay sayers like mykey to amount to a market large
enough to serve??

I suspect that within 18 months if not sooner, after the switch to ATSC,
standard cable and standard satellite TV will shut down service, and all
mykey will have is his/her VCR and DVDs

I suspect that a MAJORITY of the american tv audience is UNAWARE of the
deadline, and will be SHOCKED to discover when they turn on their TV on
that fateful day to watch their favorite shows
that NOTHING is on. Receptionists at local TV stations will be deluged
with calls.

[cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net]

Robert Gammon <rgammon51@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> Ahh, but will standard cable, standard Satellite have a market once the
> switch is made??
>
Why not? The switch to digital ota has not effect on them.

> Will there be enough nay sayers like mykey to amount to a market large
> enough to serve??
>
You mean enough trolls? His kind have no effect on anything.

> I suspect that within 18 months if not sooner, after the switch to ATSC,
> standard cable and standard satellite TV will shut down service, and all
> mykey will have is his/her VCR and DVDs
>
Again, these services are not affected by the switch to digital ota.

> I suspect that a MAJORITY of the american tv audience is UNAWARE of the
> deadline, and will be SHOCKED to discover when they turn on their TV on
> that fateful day to watch their favorite shows
> that NOTHING is on. Receptionists at local TV stations will be deluged
> with calls.

This may happen, but I suspect most people will be aware of the situation by then.

Chip

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[Robert Gammon]

cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net wrote:
> Robert Gammon <rgammon51@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Ahh, but will standard cable, standard Satellite have a market once the
>> switch is made??
>>
>>
> Why not? The switch to digital ota has not effect on them.
OTA goes dark, but that has IMPORTANT side effects.

CBS,NBC, ABC, PBS, FOX, UPN, all the OTA broadcast networks stop
sourcing NTSC materials to cable and satellite operators onthat day.

Ok TCM, AMC and the like that only broadcast old shows and movies still
have all their source material.

ESPN is likely to stop sourcing NTSC to cable and satellite owners on
that day.

News services, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, Fox News, Bloomberg are likely to stop
NTSC broadcasts on that day.

Premium movie channels and Pay Per View are likely to stop NTSC
broadcasts on that day.
>> Will there be enough nay sayers like mykey to amount to a market large
>> enough to serve??
>>
>>
> You mean enough trolls? His kind have no effect on anything.
>
>
Agreed, he/she has no impact. All Congress appears to be worried about
are poor folks in small towns with limited access to broadcast TV, and
no cable access. They are giving time for essentially 100% of all
broadcast TV stations to equip their studios, their remotes, and their
transmitters to ATSC equipment.
>> I suspect that within 18 months if not sooner, after the switch to ATSC,
>> standard cable and standard satellite TV will shut down service, and all
>> mykey will have is his/her VCR and DVDs
>>
>>
> Again, these services are not affected by the switch to digital ota.
>
But they are indirectly affected, no new source materials
>
>> I suspect that a MAJORITY of the american tv audience is UNAWARE of the
>> deadline, and will be SHOCKED to discover when they turn on their TV on
>> that fateful day to watch their favorite shows
>> that NOTHING is on. Receptionists at local TV stations will be deluged
>> with calls.
>>
>
> This may happen, but I suspect most people will be aware of the situation by then.
>
>
>
I talk to low and low middle income folks regularly in my job as a tax
school instructor. When I bring this up in conversation with the class
each year, a good percentage of the class is SHOCKED to learn this
switch and the need to buy new equipment.

[mykeymykey01@yahoo.com]

> > You mean enough trolls? His kind have no effect on anything...

Think again...mykey is one of the original AV
home theater technicians, and his ideas contributed
to what home theater is today. He did not invent
home theater, but his ideas and contributions now
helped form what you consider to be "state of the art".
if you are talking in wall architectural speakers (for example)
mykey installed and helped design the FIRST ones
ever created. You might be surprized or SHOCKED
at what a troll can do.
as for the disappearance of standard satellite, etc
services I predict just the opposite, because after this
inconsiderate "switch" by cable providers, mykey
and 290 million others will dump cable TV and switch
to Dish Network! Let the rich people pay for digital
cable and HDTV, mykey wont do it. The Troll has
spoken.

[severian]

<mykeymykey01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161456577.206365.122840@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>> > You mean enough trolls? His kind have no effect on anything...
>
> Think again...mykey is one of the original AV
> home theater technicians, and his ideas contributed
> to what home theater is today. He did not invent
> home theater, but his ideas and contributions now
> helped form what you consider to be "state of the art".
> if you are talking in wall architectural speakers (for example)
> mykey installed and helped design the FIRST ones
> ever created. You might be surprized or SHOCKED
> at what a troll can do.
> as for the disappearance of standard satellite, etc
> services I predict just the opposite, because after this
> inconsiderate "switch" by cable providers, mykey
> and 290 million others will dump cable TV and switch
> to Dish Network! Let the rich people pay for digital
> cable and HDTV, mykey wont do it. The Troll has
> spoken.
>

You know, if you're going to write things attempting to appear like someone
else saying good things about your pinheaded luddite self, and refer to
yourself in the 3rd person, you might want to consider changing your posting
return address so that it's not totally obvious you're too stupid to make a
decent sock puppet.

Jeez....what a maroon.

[mykeymykey01@yahoo.com]

There are always the few in these open forum
discussions who try to compensate for their own
inferiority complexes by bashing others. This
ranter is no exception to the rule. Often these
people feel that they own the newsgroup and
newcomers should be picked upon and insulted.
I have shared my opinion / knowledge to
learn from others by experience, and to educate /
inform others. This propagates the spirit of the open
discussion which this person does not approve of.
For those of you who participated in the discussion
in a positive light, I thank you for your informative
and educational comments. For those of you who
bash newcomers, Ill bet you voted for mini Hitler
too, and it demonstrates your true cynical
nature. --the troll (one founding father of home theater)

[Robert Gammon]

mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:
> There are always the few in these open forum
> discussions who try to compensate for their own
> inferiority complexes by bashing others. This
> ranter is no exception to the rule. Often these
> people feel that they own the newsgroup and
> newcomers should be picked upon and insulted.
> I have shared my opinion / knowledge to
> learn from others by experience, and to educate /
> inform others. This propagates the spirit of the open
> discussion which this person does not approve of.
> For those of you who participated in the discussion
> in a positive light, I thank you for your informative
> and educational comments. For those of you who
> bash newcomers, Ill bet you voted for mini Hitler
> too, and it demonstrates your true cynical
> nature. --the troll (one founding father of home theater)
>
>
I have no basis to challenge your assertion that HDTVs are unreliable.

However, no matter what our individual opinions are of the
merits/demerits of NTSC vs ATSC, ATSC is coming. Just as DVD has all
but replaced videotape, and killed LaserDisc. However, DVD's future is
cloudy as well with HD-DVD and BluRay battling it out for the spot to
replace DVDs.

It will be impossible to avoid the change. At some point after the
switch is thrown, the NTSC holdouts will either stop watching TV except
to watch their old DVDs, or they will go buy a ASTC tuner, or buy an
ATSC TV.


Death, Taxes, and ATSC are all certainties.

[severian]

<mykeymykey01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161537388.964650.6560@e3g2000cwe.googlegroup s.com...
> There are always the few in these open forum
> discussions who try to compensate for their own
> inferiority complexes by bashing others. This
> ranter is no exception to the rule. Often these
> people feel that they own the newsgroup and
> newcomers should be picked upon and insulted.
> I have shared my opinion / knowledge to
> learn from others by experience, and to educate /
> inform others. This propagates the spirit of the open
> discussion which this person does not approve of.
> For those of you who participated in the discussion
> in a positive light, I thank you for your informative
> and educational comments. For those of you who
> bash newcomers, Ill bet you voted for mini Hitler
> too, and it demonstrates your true cynical
> nature. --the troll (one founding father of home theater)
>

Yeah, some few always try and compensate for their staggering lack of
knowledge and common sense by appearing to be an expert by trashing things
that every normal person knows and enjoys. You posted a luddite idiot rant
whining about having to replace your 11 inch TV with something that wouldn't
be an embarassment in a FEMA trailer park. Oh the humanity, yet another
troll with his feelings hurt. Yeah, you're the pioneer of home theater, back
in the days when Daniel Boone was watching Disney reruns on a chipmunk
powered TV made out of tree bark. Damn, them was the days eh? You'll have to
forgive us for not wanting to stay in the stone age cheapo luddite, go back
to watching TV by torchlight and stick a crowbar in your wallet, shake out a
couple of coins, and come into the 21st century with everyone else.

Mini-hitler, that just proves the point. No matter who you are talking
about, resorting to the Nazi references shows just how intellectually
bankrupt, stupid, and unimaginative you are. Here's a hint, try and overcome
your tendency to think that ignorance and stupidity are virtues.

[severian]

"Robert Gammon" <rgammon51@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:acR_g.16779$vJ2.6062@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
> mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:
>> There are always the few in these open forum
>> discussions who try to compensate for their own
>> inferiority complexes by bashing others. This
>> ranter is no exception to the rule. Often these
>> people feel that they own the newsgroup and
>> newcomers should be picked upon and insulted.
>> I have shared my opinion / knowledge to
>> learn from others by experience, and to educate /
>> inform others. This propagates the spirit of the open
>> discussion which this person does not approve of.
>> For those of you who participated in the discussion
>> in a positive light, I thank you for your informative
>> and educational comments. For those of you who
>> bash newcomers, Ill bet you voted for mini Hitler
>> too, and it demonstrates your true cynical
>> nature. --the troll (one founding father of home theater)
>>
>>
> I have no basis to challenge your assertion that HDTVs are unreliable.

Other than, perhaps, your own experiences. But then, if your standard of
reliability is a 11 inch b&w set, as this moron's seems to be...my car isn't
as reliable as a rock either, so what? And them old Edison cylinders, damn
but weren't they reliable? All you needed was a few envelopes full of cactus
needles and you were set for life. They never broke down! Unlike all this
damned newfangled stuff.

>
> However, no matter what our individual opinions are of the merits/demerits
> of NTSC vs ATSC, ATSC is coming. Just as DVD has all but replaced
> videotape, and killed LaserDisc. However, DVD's future is cloudy as well
> with HD-DVD and BluRay battling it out for the spot to replace DVDs.
>
> It will be impossible to avoid the change. At some point after the switch
> is thrown, the NTSC holdouts will either stop watching TV except to watch
> their old DVDs, or they will go buy a ASTC tuner, or buy an ATSC TV.
>
>
> Death, Taxes, and ATSC are all certainties.
>

The OP might as well try pissing up a rope for all the good his whining will
do him. Luddites of the world unite! I bet he's the kind of guy who is
convinced that coming down out of the trees and learning to walk upright was
a bad decision, and we should all write our congressmen to complain about
that one too.

[mykeymykey01@yahoo.com]

" Old technology was good technology; maybe even better
than new technology". --Mannley, from the book: "Vacuum
Tube Logic"

"Why is there always time to do something over, but never
time to do it right"? --Gene Berg, from the book: "How to
Hotrod Volkswagon Engines"

"Correction, my sony is color, and I like it because it wont
spend half it's life in the repair shop; like a panasonic
plasma TV will".--troll, from the newsgroup: "AHTM"

[mykeymykey01@yahoo.com]

Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds.
The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to
bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express
his opinions courageously and honestly.
Albert Einstein

[severian]

<mykeymykey01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds.
> The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to
> bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express
> his opinions courageously and honestly.
> Albert Einstein
>

Yeah, and sometimes a moron is simply a moron. Great minds sometimes get
resistance, but idiots almost always do. Try and do some original thinking
and not just use a book of quotations. Idiot.

[severian]

<mykeymykey01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161568249.605207.236930@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>" Old technology was good technology; maybe even better
> than new technology". --Mannley, from the book: "Vacuum
> Tube Logic"

So, I assume you're browsing these newsgroups on your ENIAC...

>
> "Why is there always time to do something over, but never
> time to do it right"? --Gene Berg, from the book: "How to
> Hotrod Volkswagon Engines"
>
> "Correction, my sony is color, and I like it because it wont
> spend half it's life in the repair shop; like a panasonic
> plasma TV will".--troll, from the newsgroup: "AHTM"

Won't give you a tenth of the image quality or home theater experience
either. But if that's what's important to you. You home theater "pioneers"
sure know a thing or three about quality and living large don't you?

[Robert Gammon]

mykeymykey01@yahoo.com wrote:
> Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds.
> The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to
> bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express
> his opinions courageously and honestly.
> Albert Einstein
>
>
Appearing to quote the words of the great and not so great,DOES NOT HELP
YOUR CAUSE.

My NTSC TVs have worked great and stayed out of the repair shop. Only
one has ever been to a shop. I get tired of them and want something
newer, bigger, or one of us or a visitor (grandkids) does something
wrong (knock it over into the floor) and busts it.

In 35 years, I have owned 4 TVs

I have little doubt that when I get my next TV, an ATSC model, in about
6 months, it will work great AND not grace the doors of a repair shop.