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Bill Stock
08-08-2006, 07:09 AM
I was going to install a 6287 to see if it would alleviate my signal sucking
CFLs. The problem is there is a switched socket on the same circuit as the
lights (3). But the socket only gets used for the Christmas lights, so I
figure I've got a few months to test.
I took the covers off the three CFL lights in the string and I discovered
that two of the three lights are 'End of Line'. So I guess I need at least
two 6287s? For the intermediate box, The load side of the 6287 needs to go
to both loads (two blacks- light and downstream lights) and the line side
needs to go to the black wire coming from the switch? Kinda obvious I hope,
but I thought I should check.
Thanks.
Bill Stock
08-08-2006, 07:09 AM
"Bill Stock" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>I was going to install a 6287 to see if it would alleviate my signal
>sucking CFLs. The problem is there is a switched socket on the same circuit
>as the lights (3). But the socket only gets used for the Christmas lights,
>so I figure I've got a few months to test.
>
> I took the covers off the three CFL lights in the string and I discovered
> that two of the three lights are 'End of Line'. So I guess I need at
> least two 6287s? For the intermediate box, The load side of the 6287 needs
> to go to both loads (two blacks- light and downstream lights) and the line
> side needs to go to the black wire coming from the switch? Kinda obvious
> I hope, but I thought I should check.
>
> Thanks.
>
OK,
That seems to have worked, no smoke, no flames and the damn switch responded
to an Off command. Hallelujah!
Now, if I wire the downstream load (receptacle + 3rd light) to the live side
of the 6287, will this bypass the middle 6287 for the downstream receptacle?
I can then put a third 6287 on the end light, which will allow me to put
more than 5 amps on the receptacle?
TIA.
Jeff Volp
08-08-2006, 08:52 AM
Those are nice little filters, and I use several of them here. It is a
little hard for me to visualize your connections without a diagram of some
sort:
SW ----------> (6287) CFL ------> CFL
-----> SW Recept ----> (6287) CFL
Assuming the switch controls the receptacle and 3 lights, something like
this should work fine.
Jeff
"Bill Stock" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Bill Stock" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:4jpc9tF94530U1@individual.net...
> >I was going to install a 6287 to see if it would alleviate my signal
> >sucking CFLs. The problem is there is a switched socket on the same
circuit
> >as the lights (3). But the socket only gets used for the Christmas
lights,
> >so I figure I've got a few months to test.
> >
> > I took the covers off the three CFL lights in the string and I
discovered
> > that two of the three lights are 'End of Line'. So I guess I need at
> > least two 6287s? For the intermediate box, The load side of the 6287
needs
> > to go to both loads (two blacks- light and downstream lights) and the
line
> > side needs to go to the black wire coming from the switch? Kinda
obvious
> > I hope, but I thought I should check.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> OK,
>
> That seems to have worked, no smoke, no flames and the damn switch
responded
> to an Off command. Hallelujah!
>
> Now, if I wire the downstream load (receptacle + 3rd light) to the live
side
> of the 6287, will this bypass the middle 6287 for the downstream
receptacle?
> I can then put a third 6287 on the end light, which will allow me to put
> more than 5 amps on the receptacle?
>
> TIA.
>
>
>
Bill Stock
08-08-2006, 09:07 AM
I was going to put up some ASCII art, but it's just to painful.
Your diagram is close, I picture it something like this:
The current setup is:
CFL <----- 6287 <--------------
SW---------->6287->CFL---------->Receptacle--------->CFL
I've got everything past the 2nd 6287 on the load side of the switch .
I'd like to change it to this:
CFL <----- 6287 <--------------
SW---------->6287->CFL---------->Receptacle--------->6287->CFL
By only having the second light on the load side of the switch and
everything downstream connected to the live side of the 6287.
If this works out, I've got two more lights on the same unit code, but
different circuits. Although they don't seem to bother the X10 as much.
"Jeff Volp" <JeffVolp@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Those are nice little filters, and I use several of them here. It is a
> little hard for me to visualize your connections without a diagram of some
> sort:
>
> SW ----------> (6287) CFL ------> CFL
> -----> SW Recept ----> (6287) CFL
>
> Assuming the switch controls the receptacle and 3 lights, something like
> this should work fine.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> "Bill Stock" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:4jphkgF94obvU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Bill Stock" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:4jpc9tF94530U1@individual.net...
>> >I was going to install a 6287 to see if it would alleviate my signal
>> >sucking CFLs. The problem is there is a switched socket on the same
> circuit
>> >as the lights (3). But the socket only gets used for the Christmas
> lights,
>> >so I figure I've got a few months to test.
>> >
>> > I took the covers off the three CFL lights in the string and I
> discovered
>> > that two of the three lights are 'End of Line'. So I guess I need at
>> > least two 6287s? For the intermediate box, The load side of the 6287
> needs
>> > to go to both loads (two blacks- light and downstream lights) and the
> line
>> > side needs to go to the black wire coming from the switch? Kinda
> obvious
>> > I hope, but I thought I should check.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> OK,
>>
>> That seems to have worked, no smoke, no flames and the damn switch
> responded
>> to an Off command. Hallelujah!
>>
>> Now, if I wire the downstream load (receptacle + 3rd light) to the live
> side
>> of the 6287, will this bypass the middle 6287 for the downstream
> receptacle?
>> I can then put a third 6287 on the end light, which will allow me to put
>> more than 5 amps on the receptacle?
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Jeff Volp
08-08-2006, 02:35 PM
Sorry, but I'm confused by the apparent reverse current flow in your
diagram. Also, it looks like you plan to feed the receptacle through the
6287. The important thing to remember is that the 6287 is only rated for 5
amps, so only power to the compact fluorescents should pass through it. The
switched receptacle should get its feed directly from the switch.
My ASCII diagram didn't come out too clear. I tried to show was the switch
feeding the first CF through a 6287, and a second daisy chained off that
one. The switched receptacle was tapped of the feed to that 6287, bypassing
the filter. A CF downstream of the switched receptacle had its own 6287.
Variable and fixed fonts screw up the diagram (repeated here):
SW ----------> (6287) CFL ------> CFL
-----> SW Recept ----> (6287) CFL
Jeff
"Bill Stock" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:4jpunrF93rolU1@individual.net...
> I was going to put up some ASCII art, but it's just to painful.
>
> Your diagram is close, I picture it something like this:
>
> The current setup is:
>
> CFL <----- 6287 <--------------
> SW---------->6287->CFL---------->Receptacle--------->CFL
>
> I've got everything past the 2nd 6287 on the load side of the switch .
>
>
> I'd like to change it to this:
>
> CFL <----- 6287 <--------------
> SW---------->6287->CFL---------->Receptacle--------->6287->CFL
>
> By only having the second light on the load side of the switch and
> everything downstream connected to the live side of the 6287.
>
> If this works out, I've got two more lights on the same unit code, but
> different circuits. Although they don't seem to bother the X10 as much.
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff Volp" <JeffVolp@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:QbPBg.568324$Fs1.198954@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > Those are nice little filters, and I use several of them here. It is a
> > little hard for me to visualize your connections without a diagram of
some
> > sort:
> >
> > SW ----------> (6287) CFL ------> CFL
> > -----> SW Recept ----> (6287) CFL
> >
> > Assuming the switch controls the receptacle and 3 lights, something like
> > this should work fine.
> >
> > Jeff
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