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Alain
29-01-2005, 04:47 PM
Good day all ,

I am in the process of reorganizing my living room and will need to hook
up my HT again....I read a lot about connecting components to the HT
receiver and there is so much confusion about which method is best.

Is it better to connect everything to the receiver and only have one
cable hook up tp the tv so the receiver will handle all the switching of
audio and video or connect the video portion directly to the tv and have
the receiver handle ony the sound portion of it..... Will there be a
difference in picture quality if the receiver handle the video switching ?

Thanks

Alain

Lucas Tam
29-01-2005, 04:47 PM
Alain <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in
news:a3xId.62524$P93.1743165@wagner.videotron.net:

> Is it better to connect everything to the receiver and only have one
> cable hook up tp the tv so the receiver will handle all the switching
> of audio and video or connect the video portion directly to the tv and
> have the receiver handle ony the sound portion of it..... Will there
> be a difference in picture quality if the receiver handle the video
> switching ?

I like to have everything hooked up to the receiver - it makes it easier to
swtich video source.

As for picture quality, this depends on the amount of video bandwidth your
receiver has and the type of connectors it has. For HDTV, you'll need at
least component outputs and 37mhz of bandwidth on the component
inputs/outputs. The more video bandwidth the better. You should have a
receiver with at least 40mhz of bandwidth - some people even recommend
100mhz+.


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Badger
29-01-2005, 04:47 PM
The simple answer is, it's always best to go direct. Having said that,
it usually doesn't make sense to do so for switching reasons. If you
plan on using your receiver for switching HDTV signals, make sure you
have enough bandwidth in the video switching components. At least
100mhz!
Clay
"Alain" <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:a3xId.62524$P93.1743165@wagner.videotron.net. ..
> Good day all ,
>
> I am in the process of reorganizing my living room and will need to
hook
> up my HT again....I read a lot about connecting components to the
HT
> receiver and there is so much confusion about which method is best.
>
> Is it better to connect everything to the receiver and only have one
> cable hook up tp the tv so the receiver will handle all the
switching of
> audio and video or connect the video portion directly to the tv and
have
> the receiver handle ony the sound portion of it..... Will there be a
> difference in picture quality if the receiver handle the video
switching ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Alain

Alain
29-01-2005, 04:47 PM
Thanks for the answer

How do i verify if i have enough bandwith ?

i am using Outlaw 771 and the 950 pro

Badger wrote:
> The simple answer is, it's always best to go direct. Having said that,
> it usually doesn't make sense to do so for switching reasons. If you
> plan on using your receiver for switching HDTV signals, make sure you
> have enough bandwidth in the video switching components. At least
> 100mhz!
> Clay
> "Alain" <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:a3xId.62524$P93.1743165@wagner.videotron.net. ..
>
>>Good day all ,
>>
>>I am in the process of reorganizing my living room and will need to
>
> hook
>
>> up my HT again....I read a lot about connecting components to the
>
> HT
>
>>receiver and there is so much confusion about which method is best.
>>
>>Is it better to connect everything to the receiver and only have one
>>cable hook up tp the tv so the receiver will handle all the
>
> switching of
>
>>audio and video or connect the video portion directly to the tv and
>
> have
>
>>the receiver handle ony the sound portion of it..... Will there be a
>>difference in picture quality if the receiver handle the video
>
> switching ?
>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Alain
>
>
>

Badger
29-01-2005, 04:47 PM
That unit has 45mhz which is marginal for HD. I would find something
else, or at the least run my HD signal to the TV. Of course you can
always try it and do an A/B test to see if you notice the difference.
Clay
"Alain" <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:BaAId.64900$P93.1903303@wagner.videotron.net. ..
> Thanks for the answer
>
> How do i verify if i have enough bandwith ?
>
> i am using Outlaw 771 and the 950 pro
>
> Badger wrote:
> > The simple answer is, it's always best to go direct. Having said
that,
> > it usually doesn't make sense to do so for switching reasons. If
you
> > plan on using your receiver for switching HDTV signals, make sure
you
> > have enough bandwidth in the video switching components. At least
> > 100mhz!
> > Clay
> > "Alain" <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> > news:a3xId.62524$P93.1743165@wagner.videotron.net. ..
> >
> >>Good day all ,
> >>
> >>I am in the process of reorganizing my living room and will need
to
> >
> > hook
> >
> >> up my HT again....I read a lot about connecting components to
the
> >
> > HT
> >
> >>receiver and there is so much confusion about which method is
best.
> >>
> >>Is it better to connect everything to the receiver and only have
one
> >>cable hook up tp the tv so the receiver will handle all the
> >
> > switching of
> >
> >>audio and video or connect the video portion directly to the tv
and
> >
> > have
> >
> >>the receiver handle ony the sound portion of it..... Will there be
a
> >>difference in picture quality if the receiver handle the video
> >
> > switching ?
> >
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Alain
> >
> >
> >

Youngin...
29-01-2005, 04:47 PM
I have a pioneer 1014 that only has 40mhz and I don't see a difference.
I do however keep my high definition cable box direct as I have
3 devices connecting with component cables and only two inputs on my
receiver. With my Harmony remote it's not a factor though as it sets
the right tv input for the function.

young...

Badger wrote:
> That unit has 45mhz which is marginal for HD. I would find something
> else, or at the least run my HD signal to the TV. Of course you can
> always try it and do an A/B test to see if you notice the difference.
> Clay
> "Alain" <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:BaAId.64900$P93.1903303@wagner.videotron.net. ..
>
>>Thanks for the answer
>>
>>How do i verify if i have enough bandwith ?
>>
>>i am using Outlaw 771 and the 950 pro
>>
>>Badger wrote:
>>
>>>The simple answer is, it's always best to go direct. Having said
>
> that,
>
>>>it usually doesn't make sense to do so for switching reasons. If
>
> you
>
>>>plan on using your receiver for switching HDTV signals, make sure
>
> you
>
>>>have enough bandwidth in the video switching components. At least
>>>100mhz!
>>>Clay
>>>"Alain" <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:a3xId.62524$P93.1743165@wagner.videotron.net. ..
>>>
>>>
>>>>Good day all ,
>>>>
>>>>I am in the process of reorganizing my living room and will need
>
> to
>
>>>hook
>>>
>>>
>>>> up my HT again....I read a lot about connecting components to
>
> the
>
>>>HT
>>>
>>>
>>>>receiver and there is so much confusion about which method is
>
> best.
>
>>>>Is it better to connect everything to the receiver and only have
>
> one
>
>>>>cable hook up tp the tv so the receiver will handle all the
>>>
>>>switching of
>>>
>>>
>>>>audio and video or connect the video portion directly to the tv
>
> and
>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>>the receiver handle ony the sound portion of it..... Will there be
>
> a
>
>>>>difference in picture quality if the receiver handle the video
>>>
>>>switching ?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Alain
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

06-02-2005, 02:40 PM
IMHO 70mhz of band width is the minimum for hdtv pass-thru
"Lucas Tam" <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Alain <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in
> news:a3xId.62524$P93.1743165@wagner.videotron.net:
>
> > Is it better to connect everything to the receiver and only have one
> > cable hook up tp the tv so the receiver will handle all the switching
> > of audio and video or connect the video portion directly to the tv and
> > have the receiver handle ony the sound portion of it..... Will there
> > be a difference in picture quality if the receiver handle the video
> > switching ?
>
> I like to have everything hooked up to the receiver - it makes it easier
to
> swtich video source.
>
> As for picture quality, this depends on the amount of video bandwidth your
> receiver has and the type of connectors it has. For HDTV, you'll need at
> least component outputs and 37mhz of bandwidth on the component
> inputs/outputs. The more video bandwidth the better. You should have a
> receiver with at least 40mhz of bandwidth - some people even recommend
> 100mhz+.
>
>
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Lucas Tam
07-02-2005, 06:53 AM
<steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:c4gNd.33488$t67.33010
@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

> IMHO 70mhz of band width is the minimum for hdtv pass-thru

Bet you can't tell the difference between 40mhz and 70mhz!

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17-02-2005, 07:12 AM
"Alain" <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the answer
>
> How do i verify if i have enough bandwith ?

They hide that information in the instruction manuel under "specifications".
The bastards! Who'd think of looking THERE!!!
>
> i am using Outlaw 771 and the 950 pro
>
> Badger wrote:
> > The simple answer is, it's always best to go direct. Having said that,
> > it usually doesn't make sense to do so for switching reasons. If you
> > plan on using your receiver for switching HDTV signals, make sure you
> > have enough bandwidth in the video switching components. At least
> > 100mhz!
> > Clay
> > "Alain" <brownie@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> > news:a3xId.62524$P93.1743165@wagner.videotron.net. ..
> >
> >>Good day all ,
> >>
> >>I am in the process of reorganizing my living room and will need to
> >
> > hook
> >
> >> up my HT again....I read a lot about connecting components to the
> >
> > HT
> >
> >>receiver and there is so much confusion about which method is best.
> >>
> >>Is it better to connect everything to the receiver and only have one
> >>cable hook up tp the tv so the receiver will handle all the
> >
> > switching of
> >
> >>audio and video or connect the video portion directly to the tv and
> >
> > have
> >
> >>the receiver handle ony the sound portion of it..... Will there be a
> >>difference in picture quality if the receiver handle the video
> >
> > switching ?
> >
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Alain
> >
> >
> >

20-02-2005, 07:12 PM
when HD dvds come out, if they follow the trend of the JVC hdtv vcr they
will have better resolution and picture than HDTV broadcast over the air,
then you might be able to tell some difference but 70 mhz is still good
insurance against being rendered obsolete
"Lucas Tam" <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> <steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:c4gNd.33488$t67.33010
> @bignews5.bellsouth.net:
>
> > IMHO 70mhz of band width is the minimum for hdtv pass-thru
>
> Bet you can't tell the difference between 40mhz and 70mhz!
>
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Lucas Tam
21-02-2005, 05:25 AM
<steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:vCXRd.7656$u87.4989@bignews6.bellsouth.net:

> when HD dvds come out, if they follow the trend of the JVC hdtv vcr
> they will have better resolution and picture than HDTV broadcast over
> the air, then you might be able to tell some difference but 70 mhz is
> still good insurance against being rendered obsolete

For protection again obsoletion it 70mhz is a good idea, but if the person
is purchasing a low to mid end receiver, 40mhz is probably good enough.
Higher bandwidth receivers are probably out of the budget of a person
looking in this price range.

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