HDTV Question

[Jeff Wiseman]

Stephen Neal wrote:
>
> "Jeff Wiseman" <wisemanja@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:41F074ED.84F11DA2@earthlink.net...
> >
> > I respectfully point out that you've been asked 2 or three times
> > now what the output setting of your DVD player is but you do not
> > seem to have checked it yet. 4x3 is the default setting for most
> > DVD players and the mistake of NOT setting it to 16:9 when using
> > a widescreen set is VERY common! Check the setting before sending
> > it back.
> >
>
> Sounds like the guy did have it set-up for 16:9 output - but wasn't clear
> about the various display modes available on the display. FULL normally
> means "Force 16:9" - stretching a 4:3 input to full 16:9 width, or correctly
> displaying an anamorpic 16:9 picture - if he'd been using a Zoom mode to fix
> it I would agree that his player was probably set up for 4:3 output with
> letterboxing (or even full-frame centre cut out and displaying a 2.35:1
> transfer that was letterboxed in 16:9).


I went back and looked. I could only find three of his postings
and none specifically stated anything about the DVD player's
settings. I wonder if Earthlink's news servers aren't getting all
of the thread...

However, I did find at least three postings asking for the DVD
settings, hence my comment. This one does seem to get missed frequently.


> Sounds like the DVD player and/or TV aren't correctly autoswiching aspect
> ratios between 4:3 and 16:9. In the UK this is accomplished by in-vision
> Line 23 widescreen signalling and/or a voltage difference on pin 8 of our
> SCART AV connectors. (When a DVD player or Digital TV receiver is outputting
> 16:9 full-height - aka "anamorphic" it signals a 16:9 TV to display in
> full-width 16:9. When it is outputting 4:3 it signals that the output is 4:3
> and the TV drops into whichever display mode the user has chosen for 4:3
> material on a 16:9 screen)
>
> In the US I believe aspect ratio can be signalled on an S-video feed by
> adding a DC voltage offset to the chroma output ?


I don't know what it is, but there is some mode that it
recognizes. I had a Sony 36XBR250 that would drop into a
compressed raster with the anamorphic stuff. Worked really well!

- Jeff

[L Alpert]

RKRM wrote:
> I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get
> a black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the
> middle f the screen. Is it defective?

Did you set up your DVD player for a 16:9 aspect ratio TV or a 4:3? It
should be 16:9...

[L Alpert]

RKRM wrote:
> The TV has four picture modes. Normal. Which it turns out isn't
> exactly normal. Full which is what I should have had it set on. The
> other two modes are Zoom 1 and Zoom 2. Those are magnifications and
> can do weird things to the picture. The manual for this TV is vague
> but the customer service number is awesome. So now I have the
> cheapest home theater possible that doesn't suck complete ass.
> Shweet. Thanks for the replies. It is much appreciated. Thanks.

The set up in the DVD player, not the TV. The player needs to know what is
attached to it to scale the output....

> "dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9FVHd.13548$5R.140@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com ...
>> Did you check the DVD player as the other guy suggested? Make sure
>> it is set for 16:9 display? If ALL your DVDs look the way you
>> describe, anamorphic or not, I would bet your DVD player is set for
>> 4:3 TV not 16:9. --Dan
>>
>> "RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:8bSdnUvKYKS5vm3cRVn-rw@comcast.com...
>>> ALL my DVD's do the box thing. Everything is set up and anamorphic
>>> doesn't change a thing. In fact the bars on the side are an off
>>> black almost a dark grey. It's a piece of shit and I am taking it
>>> back. "Gary A. Edelstein" <edelsgNO@SPAMyahoo.com.invalid> wrote in
>>> message news:9j10v01chpvqfsc2v759047oi81q32paf9@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:12:28 -0800, "RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I
>>>>> get a black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in
>>>>> the middle f the
>>>>> screen. Is it defective?
>>>>>
>>>> I doubt it. Big boy's reply is correct if the DVD isn't anamorphic
>>>> widescreen and the TV is set to show a 4x3 input from the DVD
>>>> player with black bars on the sides.
>>>>
>>>> You should also check to be sure the DVD player setup for the video
>>>> output is set for a 16x9, not a 4x3 set. If the DVD is anamorphic,
>>>> then that will fix the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Gary E
>>>> --
>>>>> Gary A. Edelstein
>>>>> edelsgNO@SPAMyahoo.com.invalid (remove NO SPAM and .invalid to
>>>>> reply) "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Walt Kelly's Pogo

[Stephen Neal]

"Jeff Wiseman" <wisemanja@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:41F074ED.84F11DA2@earthlink.net...
>
> I respectfully point out that you've been asked 2 or three times
> now what the output setting of your DVD player is but you do not
> seem to have checked it yet. 4x3 is the default setting for most
> DVD players and the mistake of NOT setting it to 16:9 when using
> a widescreen set is VERY common! Check the setting before sending
> it back.
>

Sounds like the guy did have it set-up for 16:9 output - but wasn't clear
about the various display modes available on the display. FULL normally
means "Force 16:9" - stretching a 4:3 input to full 16:9 width, or correctly
displaying an anamorpic 16:9 picture - if he'd been using a Zoom mode to fix
it I would agree that his player was probably set up for 4:3 output with
letterboxing (or even full-frame centre cut out and displaying a 2.35:1
transfer that was letterboxed in 16:9).

Sounds like the DVD player and/or TV aren't correctly autoswiching aspect
ratios between 4:3 and 16:9. In the UK this is accomplished by in-vision
Line 23 widescreen signalling and/or a voltage difference on pin 8 of our
SCART AV connectors. (When a DVD player or Digital TV receiver is outputting
16:9 full-height - aka "anamorphic" it signals a 16:9 TV to display in
full-width 16:9. When it is outputting 4:3 it signals that the output is 4:3
and the TV drops into whichever display mode the user has chosen for 4:3
material on a 16:9 screen)

In the US I believe aspect ratio can be signalled on an S-video feed by
adding a DC voltage offset to the chroma output ?

Steve

[RKRM]

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:LKedncxLxdQkDG3cRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> RKRM wrote:
>> I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get
>> a black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the
>> middle f the screen. Is it defective?
>
> Did you set up your DVD player for a 16:9 aspect ratio

I did. And I put it on Progressive mode. And I turned Digital audio. Thanks
for the relies.

TV or a 4:3? It
> should be 16:9...
>

[Jeff Wiseman]

I respectfully point out that you've been asked 2 or three times
now what the output setting of your DVD player is but you do not
seem to have checked it yet. 4x3 is the default setting for most
DVD players and the mistake of NOT setting it to 16:9 when using
a widescreen set is VERY common! Check the setting before sending
it back.

Cheers!

- Jeff

[RKRM]

ALL my DVD's do the box thing. Everything is set up and anamorphic doesn't
change a thing. In fact the bars on the side are an off black almost a dark
grey. It's a piece of shit and I am taking it back.
"Gary A. Edelstein" <edelsgNO@SPAMyahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:9j10v01chpvqfsc2v759047oi81q32paf9@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:12:28 -0800, "RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get a
>>black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the middle f the
>>screen. Is it defective?
>>
> I doubt it. Big boy's reply is correct if the DVD isn't anamorphic
> widescreen and the TV is set to show a 4x3 input from the DVD player
> with black bars on the sides.
>
> You should also check to be sure the DVD player setup for the video
> output is set for a 16x9, not a 4x3 set. If the DVD is anamorphic,
> then that will fix the problem.
>
> Gary E
> --
> |Gary A. Edelstein
> |edelsgNO@SPAMyahoo.com.invalid (remove NO SPAM and .invalid to reply)
> |"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Walt Kelly's Pogo

[dg]

Did you check the DVD player as the other guy suggested? Make sure it is
set for 16:9 display? If ALL your DVDs look the way you describe,
anamorphic or not, I would bet your DVD player is set for 4:3 TV not 16:9.

--Dan

"RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:8bSdnUvKYKS5vm3cRVn-rw@comcast.com...
> ALL my DVD's do the box thing. Everything is set up and anamorphic doesn't
> change a thing. In fact the bars on the side are an off black almost a
> dark grey. It's a piece of shit and I am taking it back.
> "Gary A. Edelstein" <edelsgNO@SPAMyahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:9j10v01chpvqfsc2v759047oi81q32paf9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:12:28 -0800, "RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get a
>>>black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the middle f
>>>the
>>>screen. Is it defective?
>>>
>> I doubt it. Big boy's reply is correct if the DVD isn't anamorphic
>> widescreen and the TV is set to show a 4x3 input from the DVD player
>> with black bars on the sides.
>>
>> You should also check to be sure the DVD player setup for the video
>> output is set for a 16x9, not a 4x3 set. If the DVD is anamorphic,
>> then that will fix the problem.
>>
>> Gary E
>> --
>> |Gary A. Edelstein
>> |edelsgNO@SPAMyahoo.com.invalid (remove NO SPAM and .invalid to reply)
>> |"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Walt Kelly's Pogo
>
>

[RKRM]

The TV has four picture modes. Normal. Which it turns out isn't exactly
normal. Full which is what I should have had it set on. The other two modes
are Zoom 1 and Zoom 2. Those are magnifications and can do weird things to
the picture. The manual for this TV is vague but the customer service number
is awesome. So now I have the cheapest home theater possible that doesn't
suck complete ass. Shweet. Thanks for the replies. It is much appreciated.
Thanks.
"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9FVHd.13548$5R.140@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com ...
> Did you check the DVD player as the other guy suggested? Make sure it is
> set for 16:9 display? If ALL your DVDs look the way you describe,
> anamorphic or not, I would bet your DVD player is set for 4:3 TV not 16:9.
>
> --Dan
>
> "RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:8bSdnUvKYKS5vm3cRVn-rw@comcast.com...
>> ALL my DVD's do the box thing. Everything is set up and anamorphic
>> doesn't change a thing. In fact the bars on the side are an off black
>> almost a dark grey. It's a piece of shit and I am taking it back.
>> "Gary A. Edelstein" <edelsgNO@SPAMyahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:9j10v01chpvqfsc2v759047oi81q32paf9@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:12:28 -0800, "RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get a
>>>>black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the middle f
>>>>the
>>>>screen. Is it defective?
>>>>
>>> I doubt it. Big boy's reply is correct if the DVD isn't anamorphic
>>> widescreen and the TV is set to show a 4x3 input from the DVD player
>>> with black bars on the sides.
>>>
>>> You should also check to be sure the DVD player setup for the video
>>> output is set for a 16x9, not a 4x3 set. If the DVD is anamorphic,
>>> then that will fix the problem.
>>>
>>> Gary E
>>> --
>>> |Gary A. Edelstein
>>> |edelsgNO@SPAMyahoo.com.invalid (remove NO SPAM and .invalid to reply)
>>> |"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Walt Kelly's Pogo
>>
>>
>
>

[Gary A. Edelstein]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:12:28 -0800, "RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
wrote:

>I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get a
>black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the middle f the
>screen. Is it defective?
>
I doubt it. Big boy's reply is correct if the DVD isn't anamorphic
widescreen and the TV is set to show a 4x3 input from the DVD player
with black bars on the sides.

You should also check to be sure the DVD player setup for the video
output is set for a 16x9, not a 4x3 set. If the DVD is anamorphic,
then that will fix the problem.

Gary E
--
|Gary A. Edelstein
|edelsgNO@SPAMyahoo.com.invalid (remove NO SPAM and .invalid to reply)
|"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Walt Kelly's Pogo

[Big Boy]

RKRM wrote:
> I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get a
> black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the middle f the
> screen. Is it defective?
>
>

No, your new TV is not defective. The box on the screen just means that
your DVD contains a letterboxed version of the movie (i.e.
non-anamorphic). Your TV, probably, has a "zoom" function that should
allow you to remove the black bars on the side by zooming in on the
picture. Alternatively, you can buy an anamorphic version of the DVD (if
one exists).

BB

[RKRM]

I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get a
black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the middle f the
screen. Is it defective?

[RKRM]

"Stephen Neal" <stephen.neal@nospam.as-directed.com> wrote in message
news:csqs5v$191$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk...
>
> "Jeff Wiseman" <wisemanja@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:41F074ED.84F11DA2@earthlink.net...
>>
>> I respectfully point out that you've been asked 2 or three times
>> now what the output setting of your DVD player is but you do not
>> seem to have checked it yet. 4x3 is the default setting for most
>> DVD players and the mistake of NOT setting it to 16:9 when using
>> a widescreen set is VERY common! Check the setting before sending
>> it back.
>>
>
> Sounds like the guy did have it set-up for 16:9 output - but wasn't clear
> about the various display modes available on the display. FULL normally
> means "Force 16:9" - stretching a 4:3 input to full 16:9 width, or
> correctly displaying an anamorpic 16:9 picture

Exactly. I thought full was a magnification. It's my first widescreen or HD
Television and I was unaware that a widescreen DVD wouldn't just play that
way. The manual that came with TV is worthless. Any way thanks for the
replies. On a related note when recieving an over the air HDTV signal (not
cable but antena) it flips into full mode automaticaly and the normal or 4:3
mode becomes unavailable. Unfortunately I could only get one channel over
the air. It was amazing though to actually recieve a 1080i signal with dolby
digital using a sub 20$ antenna from Wallmart. The choice was then put an
antenna in my attic or get an HD box from Comcast for 6.75 a month . I went
with Comcast. I am set now. HDTV (1080i) from comcast Excellent pictures
(480p) from my DVD player and awesome gaming (480p, 720p, & 1080i) from My
Xbox. Not to mention dolby digital and I am pretty pleased. My wife? She's
disgusted. Oh well. Is there any such thing as a dvd player that outputs
1080i? Thanks to all.

- if he'd been using a Zoom mode to fix
> it I would agree that his player was probably set up for 4:3 output with
> letterboxing (or even full-frame centre cut out and displaying a 2.35:1
> transfer that was letterboxed in 16:9).
>
> Sounds like the DVD player and/or TV aren't correctly autoswiching aspect
> ratios between 4:3 and 16:9. In the UK this is accomplished by in-vision
> Line 23 widescreen signalling and/or a voltage difference on pin 8 of our
> SCART AV connectors. (When a DVD player or Digital TV receiver is
> outputting 16:9 full-height - aka "anamorphic" it signals a 16:9 TV to
> display in full-width 16:9. When it is outputting 4:3 it signals that the
> output is 4:3 and the TV drops into whichever display mode the user has
> chosen for 4:3 material on a 16:9 screen)
>
> In the US I believe aspect ratio can be signalled on an S-video feed by
> adding a DC voltage offset to the chroma output ?
>
> Steve
>

[L Alpert]

"RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:CY6dnRSLuukgNm3cRVn-1g@comcast.com...
>
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:LKedncxLxdQkDG3cRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>> RKRM wrote:
>>> I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get
>>> a black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the
>>> middle f the screen. Is it defective?
>>
>> Did you set up your DVD player for a 16:9 aspect ratio
>
> I did. And I put it on Progressive mode. And I turned Digital audio.
> Thanks for the relies.
>
> TV or a 4:3? It
>> should be 16:9...
>>
>
>

Is everything working now as you expected? If so, good.... Enjoy.

[L Alpert]

"RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:VLCdnQ_j64e15W_cRVn-3w@comcast.com...
>
> "Stephen Neal" <stephen.neal@nospam.as-directed.com> wrote in message
> news:csqs5v$191$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> "Jeff Wiseman" <wisemanja@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:41F074ED.84F11DA2@earthlink.net...
>>>
>>> I respectfully point out that you've been asked 2 or three times
>>> now what the output setting of your DVD player is but you do not
>>> seem to have checked it yet. 4x3 is the default setting for most
>>> DVD players and the mistake of NOT setting it to 16:9 when using
>>> a widescreen set is VERY common! Check the setting before sending
>>> it back.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like the guy did have it set-up for 16:9 output - but wasn't clear
>> about the various display modes available on the display. FULL normally
>> means "Force 16:9" - stretching a 4:3 input to full 16:9 width, or
>> correctly displaying an anamorpic 16:9 picture
>
> Exactly. I thought full was a magnification. It's my first widescreen or
> HD Television and I was unaware that a widescreen DVD wouldn't just play
> that way. The manual that came with TV is worthless. Any way thanks for
> the replies. On a related note when recieving an over the air HDTV signal
> (not cable but antena) it flips into full mode automaticaly and the normal
> or 4:3 mode becomes unavailable. Unfortunately I could only get one
> channel over the air. It was amazing though to actually recieve a 1080i
> signal with dolby digital using a sub 20$ antenna from Wallmart. The
> choice was then put an antenna in my attic or get an HD box from Comcast
> for 6.75 a month . I went with Comcast. I am set now. HDTV (1080i) from
> comcast Excellent pictures (480p) from my DVD player and awesome gaming
> (480p, 720p, & 1080i) from My Xbox. Not to mention dolby digital and I am
> pretty pleased. My wife? She's disgusted. Oh well. Is there any such thing
> as a dvd player that outputs 1080i? Thanks to all.

Yes, there are quite a few upscaling DVD players. I believe Samsung has a
couple of models available that are usually available via Circuit City, et
al (model numbers of 841 and 941 seem to stick in my mind).

Most will need a DVI input, but there are a couple of off brands that will
do component (and are not country coded).

[Karyudo]

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:57:50 -0800, "RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
wrote:

>Is there any such thing as a dvd player that outputs
>1080i?

Sure is: more than one, actually. There's at least one Toshiba, and
both the Bravo D1 and D2 models do it (with favourable reviews, no
less).

[L Alpert]

Karyudo wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:57:50 -0800, "RKRM" <rkrm@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any such thing as a dvd player that outputs
>> 1080i?
>
> Sure is: more than one, actually. There's at least one Toshiba, and
> both the Bravo D1 and D2 models do it (with favourable reviews, no
> less).

I saw a Sony one today. There is also Zenith, Samsung, Momitsu 880 (the
last will do 1080i out of the component, no country encoding).

[snowblind]

Denon 1910. Requires DVI on your set.

RKRM wrote:

> "Stephen Neal" <stephen.neal@nospam.as-directed.com> wrote in message
> news:csqs5v$191$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk...
> >
> > "Jeff Wiseman" <wisemanja@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:41F074ED.84F11DA2@earthlink.net...
> >>
> >> I respectfully point out that you've been asked 2 or three times
> >> now what the output setting of your DVD player is but you do not
> >> seem to have checked it yet. 4x3 is the default setting for most
> >> DVD players and the mistake of NOT setting it to 16:9 when using
> >> a widescreen set is VERY common! Check the setting before sending
> >> it back.
> >>
> >
> > Sounds like the guy did have it set-up for 16:9 output - but wasn't clear
> > about the various display modes available on the display. FULL normally
> > means "Force 16:9" - stretching a 4:3 input to full 16:9 width, or
> > correctly displaying an anamorpic 16:9 picture
>
> Exactly. I thought full was a magnification. It's my first widescreen or HD
> Television and I was unaware that a widescreen DVD wouldn't just play that
> way. The manual that came with TV is worthless. Any way thanks for the
> replies. On a related note when recieving an over the air HDTV signal (not
> cable but antena) it flips into full mode automaticaly and the normal or 4:3
> mode becomes unavailable. Unfortunately I could only get one channel over
> the air. It was amazing though to actually recieve a 1080i signal with dolby
> digital using a sub 20$ antenna from Wallmart. The choice was then put an
> antenna in my attic or get an HD box from Comcast for 6.75 a month . I went
> with Comcast. I am set now. HDTV (1080i) from comcast Excellent pictures
> (480p) from my DVD player and awesome gaming (480p, 720p, & 1080i) from My
> Xbox. Not to mention dolby digital and I am pretty pleased. My wife? She's
> disgusted. Oh well. Is there any such thing as a dvd player that outputs
> 1080i? Thanks to all.
>
> - if he'd been using a Zoom mode to fix
> > it I would agree that his player was probably set up for 4:3 output with
> > letterboxing (or even full-frame centre cut out and displaying a 2.35:1
> > transfer that was letterboxed in 16:9).
> >
> > Sounds like the DVD player and/or TV aren't correctly autoswiching aspect
> > ratios between 4:3 and 16:9. In the UK this is accomplished by in-vision
> > Line 23 widescreen signalling and/or a voltage difference on pin 8 of our
> > SCART AV connectors. (When a DVD player or Digital TV receiver is
> > outputting 16:9 full-height - aka "anamorphic" it signals a 16:9 TV to
> > display in full-width 16:9. When it is outputting 4:3 it signals that the
> > output is 4:3 and the TV drops into whichever display mode the user has
> > chosen for 4:3 material on a 16:9 screen)
> >
> > In the US I believe aspect ratio can be signalled on an S-video feed by
> > adding a DC voltage offset to the chroma output ?
> >
> > Steve
> >

Or you could just set your dvd player to 16:9 televisions, this will allow
the proper display of your dvd, which is either 16:9 or 235:1, if its 235:1
you will still get a letterbox effect on a 16:9 tv
"Big Boy" <bigboybloggs@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:hvidnRvSZaPbVHLcRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
> RKRM wrote:
> > I just picked up a Sanyo HT30744. When playing a widescreen DVD I get a
> > black bar on all four sides of the picture. It's a box in the middle f
the
> > screen. Is it defective?
> >
> >
>
> No, your new TV is not defective. The box on the screen just means that
> your DVD contains a letterboxed version of the movie (i.e.
> non-anamorphic). Your TV, probably, has a "zoom" function that should
> allow you to remove the black bars on the side by zooming in on the
> picture. Alternatively, you can buy an anamorphic version of the DVD (if
> one exists).
>
> BB

[Karyudo]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:17:05 -0600, <steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>[I]f its 235:1 you will still get a letterbox effect on a 16:9 tv

I'll say... even at 2 *point* 35 to 1 you'll get a letterbox effect.
This is like a hundred times worse!

[Steven Toney]

it would be like a few pixel strip on the screen - LOL


"Karyudo" <karyudo_usenet@yahoo.com.remove.me> wrote in message
news:s4t101dg158f1d5vhs76uq27o005uqct23@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:17:05 -0600, <steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>[I]f its 235:1 you will still get a letterbox effect on a 16:9 tv
>
> I'll say... even at 2 *point* 35 to 1 you'll get a letterbox effect.
> This is like a hundred times worse!