Monster Cables?

[Severian]

"Oliver Costich" <olc-caNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:51:35 GMT, Lucas Tam <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973
> >@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
> >
> >> I informed him they were Korean.
> >>
> >
> >No one seems to recall that they were once called Lucky Goldstar ; )
> >
> >In anycase, Korean stuff is pretty good these days. JD Power did a review
> >on cell phone manufacturer satisfaction (2005). The top 4 manufacturers
> >were Korean (LG, Samsung, Kyocera, Sanyo) (hmmm is Sanyo korean?).
Motorola
> >was above average... but surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) was that
> >Sony Ericsson ranked at the very bottom of the major manufacturers (I
never
> >did like the joystick on Sony phones).
>
> Sanyo is Japanese as is Kyocera.

I thought I remembered Sanyo as being Japanese, I know Kyocera is. Way back,
in the late '80's, Kyocera was marketing some hifi gear here, a receiver, cd
player, and cassette deck, that were pretty nice. Kyocera is a big
manufacturer of ceramics (industrial), and one of the claims to fame they
had about their CD player was the pickup rod on lubricated, ultra smooth
ceramic bars instead of metal ones. Might not have made any difference, but
it let them hawk and use their primary product.

[Severian]

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Severian wrote:
>
> >Is it Lone Goldstar? I thought they were calling themselves Lucky
> Group, or
> >is that just what their distributors over here call them as a
> nickname?
>
> Shat! I think I we're BOTH wrong. I think it's LUCKY Goldstar. But
> at least we were HALF right. A level Steve should aspire to.
>
> Jeff
>

As opposed to Steve's half-vast knowledge?

[Severian]

"Oliver Costich" <olc-caNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:40:32 GMT, "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Lucas Tam" <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns95E4CA05FA9C2nntprogerscom@140.99.99.130.. .
> >> "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973
> >> @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
> >>
> >> > I informed him they were Korean.
> >> >
> >>
> >> No one seems to recall that they were once called Lucky Goldstar ; )
> >>
> >> In anycase, Korean stuff is pretty good these days. JD Power did a
review
> >> on cell phone manufacturer satisfaction (2005). The top 4 manufacturers
> >> were Korean (LG, Samsung, Kyocera, Sanyo) (hmmm is Sanyo korean?).
> >Motorola
> >> was above average... but surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) was that
> >> Sony Ericsson ranked at the very bottom of the major manufacturers (I
> >never
> >> did like the joystick on Sony phones).
> >
> >Interesting. Ericsson was what, Danish? I know B&O were working with them
on
> >a cell phone a while back.
> >
>
> Swedish

Thanks, I know Suunto watches and stuff are Finnish. Where's Nokia from? One
of those Nordic countries, but I can't recall which one, is it Sweden as
well?

[Oliver Costich]

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:40:32 GMT, "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>
>"Lucas Tam" <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns95E4CA05FA9C2nntprogerscom@140.99.99.130.. .
>> "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973
>> @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>>
>> > I informed him they were Korean.
>> >
>>
>> No one seems to recall that they were once called Lucky Goldstar ; )
>>
>> In anycase, Korean stuff is pretty good these days. JD Power did a review
>> on cell phone manufacturer satisfaction (2005). The top 4 manufacturers
>> were Korean (LG, Samsung, Kyocera, Sanyo) (hmmm is Sanyo korean?).
>Motorola
>> was above average... but surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) was that
>> Sony Ericsson ranked at the very bottom of the major manufacturers (I
>never
>> did like the joystick on Sony phones).
>
>Interesting. Ericsson was what, Danish? I know B&O were working with them on
>a cell phone a while back.
>

Swedish

[Oliver Costich]

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:51:35 GMT, Lucas Tam <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com>
wrote:

>"Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973
>@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
>> I informed him they were Korean.
>>
>
>No one seems to recall that they were once called Lucky Goldstar ; )
>
>In anycase, Korean stuff is pretty good these days. JD Power did a review
>on cell phone manufacturer satisfaction (2005). The top 4 manufacturers
>were Korean (LG, Samsung, Kyocera, Sanyo) (hmmm is Sanyo korean?). Motorola
>was above average... but surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) was that
>Sony Ericsson ranked at the very bottom of the major manufacturers (I never
>did like the joystick on Sony phones).

Sanyo is Japanese as is Kyocera.

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Severian wrote:

>Oh, he's still around, he group vomited here again, "answering" (if
you can
>call his bloviations that) a bunch of posts almost a month after they
were
>posted and not active threads anymore. Obviously more to hear his own
>"voice" than inform.

Yeah, figured that out when I got to the next thread. I hadn't been
here for a week, and the first couple threads I read were refreshingly
Steve-free, and I became prematurely overcome with joy.
I'm guessing that the reason he posts replies to old threads is because
he only gets on the internet between his mother's midget-porn surfing
binges...

Jeff

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Severian wrote:

>Is it Lone Goldstar? I thought they were calling themselves Lucky
Group, or
>is that just what their distributors over here call them as a
nickname?

Shat! I think I we're BOTH wrong. I think it's LUCKY Goldstar. But
at least we were HALF right. A level Steve should aspire to.

Jeff

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

I've seen signs (perhaps it was when we lived in Taiwan) with the name
"Lucky Goldstar."


Here's the offical company history, complete with the name "Goldstar"
in
the early days, but I don't see "Lucky Goldstar" or "Lone Goldstar"
anywhere there:


http://www.lge.com/about/corporate/html/company_history.jsp


Do they still own Zenith?


Perce


OK, ya caught me. I just made it up. Steve does it ALL THE TIME, so
cut me a break here!
But seriously, I could have sworn I read it somewhere. But unlike
Steve, I can admit when I'm wrong. The main reason Steve doesn't admit
when he's wrong, is that if he did, he'd have no time left in the day
to do anything else.

Jeff

[Severian]

"Lucas Tam" <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E4CA61EC6B5nntprogerscom@140.99.99.130.. .
> "Bob" <nimby1_notspamm_@earthlink.net> wrote in news:0zIHd.707$YD5.646
> @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> > LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know
that
> > Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
>
> We should point Steve to Denon's website... there's a company history on
> there. Surely the company's history on the official website can't be wrong
> ; )

He's been pointed there before, something about leading horses asses to
water? ;-)

[Severian]

"Lucas Tam" <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E4CA05FA9C2nntprogerscom@140.99.99.130.. .
> "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973
> @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
> > I informed him they were Korean.
> >
>
> No one seems to recall that they were once called Lucky Goldstar ; )
>
> In anycase, Korean stuff is pretty good these days. JD Power did a review
> on cell phone manufacturer satisfaction (2005). The top 4 manufacturers
> were Korean (LG, Samsung, Kyocera, Sanyo) (hmmm is Sanyo korean?).
Motorola
> was above average... but surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) was that
> Sony Ericsson ranked at the very bottom of the major manufacturers (I
never
> did like the joystick on Sony phones).

Interesting. Ericsson was what, Danish? I know B&O were working with them on
a cell phone a while back.

[Lucas Tam]

"Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973
@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:

> I informed him they were Korean.
>

No one seems to recall that they were once called Lucky Goldstar ; )

In anycase, Korean stuff is pretty good these days. JD Power did a review
on cell phone manufacturer satisfaction (2005). The top 4 manufacturers
were Korean (LG, Samsung, Kyocera, Sanyo) (hmmm is Sanyo korean?). Motorola
was above average... but surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) was that
Sony Ericsson ranked at the very bottom of the major manufacturers (I never
did like the joystick on Sony phones).

--
Lucas Tam (REMOVEnntp@rogers.com)
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[Lucas Tam]

"Bob" <nimby1_notspamm_@earthlink.net> wrote in news:0zIHd.707$YD5.646
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:

> LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know that
> Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).

We should point Steve to Denon's website... there's a company history on
there. Surely the company's history on the official website can't be wrong
; )

--
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[Lucas Tam]

"C what I mean" <no spam@frontiernet.net> wrote in
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> They are the old Goldstar??? Very interesting.. that was all very low
> end stuff... I didn't realize the connection..

Korean companies are trying to move up the ladder. Apparently Samsung
wanted to (or did) pull their products from Walmart because it made them
look "cheap". Well I guess rebranding into a high-end product is paying
off. Their DLP TVs are very tempting.

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[RicSeyler]

That's the moniker they are using in some HT magazines.
"Life's Good"

Crazy 8 wrote:

>
>> LOL! LG stands for "Lucky Group"
>
>
> Actually LG stands for "Life's Good"


--
Ric Seyler

--------------------------------------
"Homer no function beer well without."
- H.J. Simpson

[Crazy 8]

> LOL! LG stands for "Lucky Group"

Actually LG stands for "Life's Good"

[C what I mean]

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> Bob wrote:
>> LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know
> that
>> Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
>>
>> Bob
>
> Yup. LG= Lone Goldstar, formerly known as Goldstar, here in the U.S.
> Whatever happened to good ol' Steve?
>
> Jeff

They are the old Goldstar??? Very interesting.. that was all very low end
stuff... I didn't realize the connection..

[Severian]

"Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> wrote in message
news:0iOHd.681$nC2.329@fe03.lga...
> I've seen signs (perhaps it was when we lived in Taiwan) with the name
> "Lucky Goldstar."
>
> Here's the offical company history, complete with the name "Goldstar" in
> the early days, but I don't see "Lucky Goldstar" or "Lone Goldstar"
> anywhere there:
>
> http://www.lge.com/about/corporate/html/company_history.jsp
>
> Do they still own Zenith?
>

I believe so, there's a link on their page to Zenith.


> On 01/20/05 06:12 am 1shado1@sbcglobal.net tossed the following
> ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
>
> > Yup. LG= Lone Goldstar, formerly known as Goldstar, here in the U.S.
> > Whatever happened to good ol' Steve?

[Severian]

"C what I mean" <no spam@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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>
> <1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1106219530.101234.262420@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> >> LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know
> > that
> >> Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> > Yup. LG= Lone Goldstar, formerly known as Goldstar, here in the U.S.
> > Whatever happened to good ol' Steve?
> >
> > Jeff
>
> They are the old Goldstar??? Very interesting.. that was all very low end
> stuff... I didn't realize the connection..
>
>

Yeah, they really really wanted to distance themselves from that moniker
particularly in the US market. I haven't looked at their stuff extensively
lately, but in terms of appearance and design, their stuff looks decidely
upmarket now. It'll be interesting to see if their electronics are up to it,
they have some quite reasonably priced DLP and LCD rear projection sets now.
They really seem to be marketing their appliances (refridgerators, washers,
etc.) aggressively, and they have a very modern style to them.

[Percival P. Cassidy]

I've seen signs (perhaps it was when we lived in Taiwan) with the name
"Lucky Goldstar."

Here's the offical company history, complete with the name "Goldstar" in
the early days, but I don't see "Lucky Goldstar" or "Lone Goldstar"
anywhere there:

http://www.lge.com/about/corporate/html/company_history.jsp

Do they still own Zenith?

Perce


On 01/20/05 06:12 am 1shado1@sbcglobal.net tossed the following
ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

> Yup. LG= Lone Goldstar, formerly known as Goldstar, here in the U.S.
> Whatever happened to good ol' Steve?

[Severian]

"C what I mean" <no spam@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> Yeah.. LG is Korean. I have friends that dealt with their industrial
drives
> and he was burned by LG very badly. That division of LG cost him his
entire
> retirement savings and at least two partners lost their houses because LG
> wouldn't deliver on promises they made in writing...

That's very sad, especially since they didn't meet contractural obligations.
I've seen SGI do the same thing when they were the only game in town for
graphics workstations. They're a lot more responsive now that high end PCs
are taking a lot of their bottom to mid level market away, especially in the
military simulation area.

He probably wasn't a large enough firm to take effective legal action
against them either I would imagine. Hard for a small business to fight a
company with deep pockets for legal teams.

>
>
> "Bob" <nimby1_notspamm_@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:0zIHd.707$YD5.646@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> >
> > "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> >> Heh heh...good story. I was at Circuit Shitty tonight, had to pick up a
> >> printer cartridge (they didn't have it, had to go to Staples instead),
> >> and
> >> was looking at the TVs. Some kid salesdroid comes up and notices that
I'm
> >> looking over the new LG displays. Some were pretty good looking, as
near
> > as
> >> you can tell in such a situation, and nicely styled in a black/chrome
> > modern
> >> way. He started in on how they were a high end European brand (hey, he
> >> and
> >> Steve99 must be related!), and got a really shocked look when I
informed
> > him
> >> they were Korean.
> >>
> >
> > LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know
that
> > Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
>
>

[Severian]

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> Bob wrote:
> > LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know
> that
> > Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
> >
> > Bob
>
> Yup. LG= Lone Goldstar, formerly known as Goldstar, here in the U.S.
> Whatever happened to good ol' Steve?
>
> Jeff
>

Is it Lone Goldstar? I thought they were calling themselves Lucky Group, or
is that just what their distributors over here call them as a nickname?

[Severian]

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> Bob wrote:
> > LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know
> that
> > Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
> >
> > Bob
>
> Yup. LG= Lone Goldstar, formerly known as Goldstar, here in the U.S.
> Whatever happened to good ol' Steve?
>
> Jeff
>

Oh, he's still around, he group vomited here again, "answering" (if you can
call his bloviations that) a bunch of posts almost a month after they were
posted and not active threads anymore. Obviously more to hear his own
"voice" than inform.

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Bob wrote:
> LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know
that
> Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
>
> Bob

Yup. LG= Lone Goldstar, formerly known as Goldstar, here in the U.S.
Whatever happened to good ol' Steve?

Jeff

[Severian]

"Bob" <nimby1_notspamm_@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> > Heh heh...good story. I was at Circuit Shitty tonight, had to pick up a
> > printer cartridge (they didn't have it, had to go to Staples instead),
and
> > was looking at the TVs. Some kid salesdroid comes up and notices that
I'm
> > looking over the new LG displays. Some were pretty good looking, as near
> as
> > you can tell in such a situation, and nicely styled in a black/chrome
> modern
> > way. He started in on how they were a high end European brand (hey, he
and
> > Steve99 must be related!), and got a really shocked look when I informed
> him
> > they were Korean.
> >
>
> LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know that
> Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
>
> Bob

LOL! LG stands for "Lucky Group" formerly known on these shores as Goldstar.
Not surprising I guess that many don't know they're Korean, LG certainly,
for obvious marketing reasons, hasn't exactly advertised the fact.

It's been interesting watching LG and Samsung attempt to ditch their bargain
basement image and move into more slick, upmarket products.

[C what I mean]

Yeah.. LG is Korean. I have friends that dealt with their industrial drives
and he was burned by LG very badly. That division of LG cost him his entire
retirement savings and at least two partners lost their houses because LG
wouldn't deliver on promises they made in writing...


"Bob" <nimby1_notspamm_@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>> Heh heh...good story. I was at Circuit Shitty tonight, had to pick up a
>> printer cartridge (they didn't have it, had to go to Staples instead),
>> and
>> was looking at the TVs. Some kid salesdroid comes up and notices that I'm
>> looking over the new LG displays. Some were pretty good looking, as near
> as
>> you can tell in such a situation, and nicely styled in a black/chrome
> modern
>> way. He started in on how they were a high end European brand (hey, he
>> and
>> Steve99 must be related!), and got a really shocked look when I informed
> him
>> they were Korean.
>>
>
> LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know that
> Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
>
> Bob
>
>

[Bob]

"Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> Heh heh...good story. I was at Circuit Shitty tonight, had to pick up a
> printer cartridge (they didn't have it, had to go to Staples instead), and
> was looking at the TVs. Some kid salesdroid comes up and notices that I'm
> looking over the new LG displays. Some were pretty good looking, as near
as
> you can tell in such a situation, and nicely styled in a black/chrome
modern
> way. He started in on how they were a high end European brand (hey, he and
> Steve99 must be related!), and got a really shocked look when I informed
him
> they were Korean.
>

LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know that
Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).

Bob

[Severian]

Heh heh...good story. I was at Circuit Shitty tonight, had to pick up a
printer cartridge (they didn't have it, had to go to Staples instead), and
was looking at the TVs. Some kid salesdroid comes up and notices that I'm
looking over the new LG displays. Some were pretty good looking, as near as
you can tell in such a situation, and nicely styled in a black/chrome modern
way. He started in on how they were a high end European brand (hey, he and
Steve99 must be related!), and got a really shocked look when I informed him
they were Korean.


"Pagan" <DirtySanchez@chonch.com> wrote in message
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> I was at Best Buy today for some speakers, and when the usual heavy sales
> pitch came up for Monster Cables, I told the kid (in my usual blunt way)
> that those things were overpriced ripoffs. I always enjoy the look they
> give me, like I just blasphemed their favorite saint.
>
> I regret I didn't point out the fact that Best Buy, who's so-called "Audio
> Specialists" worship the very shadow a $129.99 spool of 100' Monster Cable
> casts, do NOT use that same Monster Cable in their store displays.
>
> They'll stand there and proudly excrete all the benefits of 'X' brand
> speakers, cranking up the volume so you can hear just how great they are,
> when the whole time they're driven by scrawny 22 gauge wire bought from
> deepest darkest Cambodia.
>
> I really can't wait for the next "Audio Specialist" to try fisting me with
a
> Monster Cable sales pitch. heh
>
> Pagan
>
>

[Pagan]

I was at Best Buy today for some speakers, and when the usual heavy sales
pitch came up for Monster Cables, I told the kid (in my usual blunt way)
that those things were overpriced ripoffs. I always enjoy the look they
give me, like I just blasphemed their favorite saint.

I regret I didn't point out the fact that Best Buy, who's so-called "Audio
Specialists" worship the very shadow a $129.99 spool of 100' Monster Cable
casts, do NOT use that same Monster Cable in their store displays.

They'll stand there and proudly excrete all the benefits of 'X' brand
speakers, cranking up the volume so you can hear just how great they are,
when the whole time they're driven by scrawny 22 gauge wire bought from
deepest darkest Cambodia.

I really can't wait for the next "Audio Specialist" to try fisting me with a
Monster Cable sales pitch. heh

Pagan

[Pagan]

"C what I mean" <no spam@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> I just took the last three hours reading all sorts of Monstrous stories.
As
> a contractor I can assure you my company will never install or recommend
> anything with their brand name.
>
> As a matter of fact, Radio Shack sells Monster Cables.... Might I suggest
a
> letter writing campaign to Tandy to get them to drop the Monster brand?
> Tandy is very worried about public opinion.

I haven't seen it. To me, it appears Tandy doesn't give a rat's ass about
anybody's opinion.

Some of the stuff they sell is practically unusable.

They often refuse returns of defective items.

The employees at the four Radio Shack's I've been to recently have
absolutely no idea how anything works, what it does, or that they even have
it. Ask them about any particular item, and the first thing they do is
start reading the package.

Pagan

[Pagan]

"C what I mean" <no spam@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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>
> <1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1106219530.101234.262420@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> >> LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know
> > that
> >> Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> > Yup. LG= Lone Goldstar, formerly known as Goldstar, here in the U.S.
> > Whatever happened to good ol' Steve?
> >
> > Jeff
>
> They are the old Goldstar??? Very interesting.. that was all very low end
> stuff... I didn't realize the connection..

Goldstar actually made pretty good TV's and short wave radios back when.
When I was stationed in Germany, they were a popular brand. Not high end by
any means, but functional and reliable.

Pagan

[Pagan]

<steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:vWTJd.10641$ud3.8778@bignews1.bellsouth.net.. .
> Yeah you must be proud, dissing a (probably) minimum wage drone most
likely
> just out of high school.
> WOOOOO! Big tough guy!
> We arent "blessed" with a "bust buy" here but at Circuit shitty they use
> Monster for all of their connections.
> Like most trailer dwelling types who love to diss Monster cable you have
the
> wrong idea, its not an "expensive" cable by any standard, its an
inexpensive
> cable with some of the features of higher end cables, hi-fi cables for the
> masses.
> But why are you looking at cables anyway? Dont boomboxes come with their
own
> cables?

So you are the infamous Steve I've been hearing about. To be honest, I
wasn't sure what all the hoopla was about, as I looked over some of your
posts from the recent past and didn't notice anything overtly foolish.
Until now.

Funny you should "diss" trailer dwellers. Several family members of mine
have moved from houses and condos to trailers out of the big city. They
also ended up with several hundred thousand dollars in the bank, and
everything including their mortgages paid off. Feel free to refer to them
as White Trash. They'll get a smile out of that, and they'll probably ask
you how much you have sitting in the bank, doing nothing but earning
interest.

Anyway, if you believe Monster Cable isn't expensive, then you spend too
much time at the know-nothing big retailers such as Circuit City, Best Buy,
Good Guys, and so forth. You might want to try a small, mom & pop shop, or
a real electronics store, and take a gander at their cables. Not only can
you buy them in bulk, but it's the same stuff used in high end home wiring,
and the same stuff as Monster, although perhaps not as pretty. Then again,
if you truly need pretty wires to impress your friends, then by all means go
for Monster. My wires are behind the walls, under the floor, in the
ceiling, or wrapped up in tubes. In fact, nothing about the appearance of
my gear will impress anybody. I prefer watching the set or looking
elsewhere as opposed to staring at bright purple wire and flashy do-nothing
gizmos.

By the way, the most efficient way to wire a speaker is to connect the wires
directly to the source and speaker posts. No matter how fancy (and
expensive) Monster Cable banana or stick plugs are, they, at best, do
nothing to increase the efficiency of speaker wiring. At worst, they reduce
efficiency, increasing the connections from two to as much as 6 per speaker,
connections which can come loose or break, don't conduct electricity as
well, and open the door to dust and dirt which can further reduce their
ability to conduct. However, according to Monster, they do the exact
opposite, actually increasing the bass in some magical way that no
electrical engineer or scientist can fathom.

So please, buy all the Monster Cable you can afford. Make sure to buy their
optical cables, which cost as much as 10 times regular ones cost, so you'll
get higher highs and lower lows. Buy their RG6 cable as well, even though
it's dual shielded as opposed to quad shielded, isn't sweep tested, and
costs a buck or so per foot, unlike my $0.09 per foot RG6U 3ghz quad.

Not bad for a boom box, eh? heh

As for the "(probably) minimum wage drone" you claim I'm dissing, he chose
that job, chose to either parrot the sales manager in ignorance or with
knowledge of the lies, and continued to work their despite his presumably
solid work ethic. Sure, they have a job to do, just as used car dealers,
telemarketers, spammers, burglars, murderers, and terrorists do. That
doesn't mean I somehow owe them respect and admiration.

Pagan

[C what I mean]

I just took the last three hours reading all sorts of Monstrous stories. As
a contractor I can assure you my company will never install or recommend
anything with their brand name.

As a matter of fact, Radio Shack sells Monster Cables.... Might I suggest a
letter writing campaign to Tandy to get them to drop the Monster brand?
Tandy is very worried about public opinion.


"COneilliv" <coneilliv@aol.comDELETE> wrote in message
news:20050127114827.23050.00000252@mb-m01.aol.com...
> They are expensive for what you get. Many of them have shoddy
> construction,
> especially in the soldered joints.
>
> Also, they are now suing everyone that uses Monster anywhere in their
> name:
> http://www.monstervintage.com/
> http://www.madmartian.com/legal/disney_complaint.pdf
> http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-theater/thread.cgi?3368
> http://www.dcnews.com.au/Manufacturers/2183
>
>
>>Like most trailer dwelling types who love to diss Monster cable you have
>>the
>>wrong idea, its not an "expensive" cable by any standard, its an
>>inexpensive
>>cable with some of the features of higher end cables, hi-fi cables for the
>>masses.
>
>

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Severian wrote:
> <1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1106806347.521669.99370@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > > Yeah you must be proud, dissing a (probably) minimum wage drone
most
> > likely
> > > just out of high school.
> >
> > Sorry. We didn't realize it was you he was talking about.
> > Do you get some sort of employee discount?
>
> LOL! The ugly truth comes out!

It was easy enough to figure out. Do the math:

1 Monster Cable fan + 1 Electronics illiterate = Steve the Best Buy
Drone (with sincerest apologies to other Best Buy Drones that MAY
actually know what they're talking about)

Jeff

[COneilliv]

They are expensive for what you get. Many of them have shoddy construction,
especially in the soldered joints.

Also, they are now suing everyone that uses Monster anywhere in their name:
http://www.monstervintage.com/
http://www.madmartian.com/legal/disney_complaint.pdf
http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-theater/thread.cgi?3368
http://www.dcnews.com.au/Manufacturers/2183


>Like most trailer dwelling types who love to diss Monster cable you have the
>wrong idea, its not an "expensive" cable by any standard, its an inexpensive
>cable with some of the features of higher end cables, hi-fi cables for the
>masses.

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Yeah you must be proud, dissing a (probably) minimum wage drone most
likely
> just out of high school.

Sorry. We didn't realize it was you he was talking about.
Do you get some sort of employee discount?

Jeff

[Clams Canino]

Heh...

I've been here for a week and I clearly get that Steve here is "that
guy"..... LOL

-W

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1106806347.521669.99370@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>
> steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > Yeah you must be proud, dissing a (probably) minimum wage drone most
> likely
> > just out of high school.
>
> Sorry. We didn't realize it was you he was talking about.
> Do you get some sort of employee discount?
>
> Jeff
>

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Clams Canino wrote:
> Heh...
>
> I've been here for a week and I clearly get that Steve here is "that
> guy"..... LOL

Yup, he's our poster child. If you'd like to see his pic, look up
'dullard' in any modern dictionary.

Jeff

[Severian]

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1106806347.521669.99370@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>
> steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > Yeah you must be proud, dissing a (probably) minimum wage drone most
> likely
> > just out of high school.
>
> Sorry. We didn't realize it was you he was talking about.
> Do you get some sort of employee discount?

LOL! The ugly truth comes out!

[Pagan]

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1106955345.670004.193080@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Pagan wrote:
> > So you are the infamous Steve I've been hearing about. To be honest,
> I
> > wasn't sure what all the hoopla was about, as I looked over some of
> your
> > posts from the recent past and didn't notice anything overtly
> foolish.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Then you haven't read enough of them...

I guess not. Though I was curious, I wasn't interested enough to find out
bad enough to look too far. I figured he'd show up, and display his, um,
attributes, soon enough.

Pagan

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Pagan wrote:
> So you are the infamous Steve I've been hearing about. To be honest,
I
> wasn't sure what all the hoopla was about, as I looked over some of
your
> posts from the recent past and didn't notice anything overtly
foolish.

<SNIP>

Then you haven't read enough of them...

Jeff

[Oliver Costich]

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:29:19 GMT, "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>
>"Oliver Costich" <olc-caNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:4h42v09f57ismcr04dhvhqet0qseu1lumg@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:40:32 GMT, "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Lucas Tam" <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> >news:Xns95E4CA05FA9C2nntprogerscom@140.99.99.130.. .
>> >> "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973
>> >> @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>> >>
>> >> > I informed him they were Korean.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> No one seems to recall that they were once called Lucky Goldstar ; )
>> >>
>> >> In anycase, Korean stuff is pretty good these days. JD Power did a
>review
>> >> on cell phone manufacturer satisfaction (2005). The top 4 manufacturers
>> >> were Korean (LG, Samsung, Kyocera, Sanyo) (hmmm is Sanyo korean?).
>> >Motorola
>> >> was above average... but surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) was that
>> >> Sony Ericsson ranked at the very bottom of the major manufacturers (I
>> >never
>> >> did like the joystick on Sony phones).
>> >
>> >Interesting. Ericsson was what, Danish? I know B&O were working with them
>on
>> >a cell phone a while back.
>> >
>>
>> Swedish
>
>Thanks, I know Suunto watches and stuff are Finnish. Where's Nokia from? One
>of those Nordic countries, but I can't recall which one, is it Sweden as
>well?
>
Finland.

Yeah you must be proud, dissing a (probably) minimum wage drone most likely
just out of high school.
WOOOOO! Big tough guy!
We arent "blessed" with a "bust buy" here but at Circuit shitty they use
Monster for all of their connections.
Like most trailer dwelling types who love to diss Monster cable you have the
wrong idea, its not an "expensive" cable by any standard, its an inexpensive
cable with some of the features of higher end cables, hi-fi cables for the
masses.
But why are you looking at cables anyway? Dont boomboxes come with their own
cables?

"Pagan" <DirtySanchez@chonch.com> wrote in message
news:10uuf7stavjmi03@corp.supernews.com...
> I was at Best Buy today for some speakers, and when the usual heavy sales
> pitch came up for Monster Cables, I told the kid (in my usual blunt way)
> that those things were overpriced ripoffs. I always enjoy the look they
> give me, like I just blasphemed their favorite saint.
>
> I regret I didn't point out the fact that Best Buy, who's so-called "Audio
> Specialists" worship the very shadow a $129.99 spool of 100' Monster Cable
> casts, do NOT use that same Monster Cable in their store displays.
>
> They'll stand there and proudly excrete all the benefits of 'X' brand
> speakers, cranking up the volume so you can hear just how great they are,
> when the whole time they're driven by scrawny 22 gauge wire bought from
> deepest darkest Cambodia.
>
> I really can't wait for the next "Audio Specialist" to try fisting me with
a
> Monster Cable sales pitch. heh
>
> Pagan
>
>

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Pagan wrote:
> <1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1106955345.670004.193080@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > Pagan wrote:
> > > So you are the infamous Steve I've been hearing about. To be
honest,
> > I
> > > wasn't sure what all the hoopla was about, as I looked over some
of
> > your
> > > posts from the recent past and didn't notice anything overtly
> > foolish.
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > Then you haven't read enough of them...
>
> I guess not. Though I was curious, I wasn't interested enough to
find out
> bad enough to look too far. I figured he'd show up, and display his,
um,
> attributes, soon enough.
>
> Pagan

Actually, he DOES mean well, and sometimes posts good advice. What
puts everyone off here is how he gets so defensive, cocky, and just
plain nasty whenever politely (at first) corrected about erroneous
information he posts. That is why some of us have taken to attacking
him whenever we get the chance. He is totally unwilling to admit a
mistake. It wouldn't be so bad, but he is wrong more often than he is
right. Although he DOES seem to be improving, and for the most part
only posts now when more sure of his facts. But once branded a
dickwad...

Jeff

[COneilliv]

>Buy their RG6 cable as well, even though
>it's dual shielded as opposed to quad shielded, isn't sweep tested, and
>costs a buck or so per foot, unlike my $0.09 per foot RG6U 3ghz quad.
>

Unfortunately, you were mis-informed about the quality of what you were buying.
What kind of signal are you running on your RG6 QS?

Quality dual-shielded cable actually has better shielding than quad shield (95%
coverage as opposed to 76%).

Hopefully you are using your cable for cable or satellite signals and not
baseband video (composite, s-video, component, etc.) since your cable most
likely has a copper plated center conductor.

CJ

"Bob" <nimby1_notspamm_@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0zIHd.707$YD5.646@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>
> "Severian" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:nvHHd.1401$cZ1.973@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> > Heh heh...good story. I was at Circuit Shitty tonight, had to pick up a
> > printer cartridge (they didn't have it, had to go to Staples instead),
and
> > was looking at the TVs. Some kid salesdroid comes up and notices that
I'm
> > looking over the new LG displays. Some were pretty good looking, as near
> as
> > you can tell in such a situation, and nicely styled in a black/chrome
> modern
> > way. He started in on how they were a high end European brand (hey, he
and
> > Steve99 must be related!), and got a really shocked look when I informed
> him
> > they were Korean.
> >
>
> LG is Korean? I didn't know that, either. Well, at least I *do* know that
> Denon is an English company (a guy named Steve told me that).
>
> Bob

YOU'D do good to listen to that guy, sounds like he knows what hes talking
about
>
>

[neilnewsgroups@hotmail.com]

LG = Lucky Goldstar. It's Korean. Back in the 1980's, I used to have a
Goldstar VCR, BTW.