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17-03-2006, 04:17 PM

Im running a 5.1 sound system at the moment and am wondering is there a big
difference between this and DTS sound. What recommendations do you have for
a entry priced DTS system.

JD

17-03-2006, 10:53 PM

"JD" <nospam@getlost.com> wrote in message
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> Im running a 5.1 sound system at the moment and am
wondering is there a big
> difference between this and DTS sound. What
recommendations do you have for
> a entry priced DTS system.
>
> JD
>
>
I'm afraid you haven't asked the right question. DTS can be
5.1.

5.1 = 5 channels of sound + a LFE channel. You can also
have other combinations e.g. 2.0, 4.0, 5.0, 6.1 etc.

Now DTS = Digital Theatre Sound so it is a codec. What I
"think" you want to know is what is the difference between
DTS and DD (Dolby Digital)

Full bit rate DTS is about 1/3 compression and DD is about
1/12 compression. Both are lossy formats i.e they throw
bits of information away. In an ideal World the less you
throw away the better the sound. Like MP3 codecs.

As far as a DTS system goes all you need is the decoder *IF*
you already have someway of running 5.1 speakers.

I hope this helps.

Cheers TT

18-03-2006, 07:44 AM

"TT" <TTencerNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> "JD" <nospam@getlost.com> wrote in message
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>> Im running a 5.1 sound system at the moment and am
> wondering is there a big
>> difference between this and DTS sound. What
> recommendations do you have for
>> a entry priced DTS system.
>>
>> JD
>>
>>
> I'm afraid you haven't asked the right question. DTS can be
> 5.1.
>
> 5.1 = 5 channels of sound + a LFE channel. You can also
> have other combinations e.g. 2.0, 4.0, 5.0, 6.1 etc.
>
> Now DTS = Digital Theatre Sound so it is a codec. What I
> "think" you want to know is what is the difference between
> DTS and DD (Dolby Digital)
>
> Full bit rate DTS is about 1/3 compression and DD is about
> 1/12 compression. Both are lossy formats i.e they throw
> bits of information away. In an ideal World the less you
> throw away the better the sound. Like MP3 codecs.
>
> As far as a DTS system goes all you need is the decoder *IF*
> you already have someway of running 5.1 speakers.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Cheers TT
>
>

Yes the information helps. Thanks for the insight.

Saus29

19-03-2006, 07:26 PM

DTS is a very aggressive surround, you will definitely hear your surrounds
as opposed to DD where you need to check periodically to see if they are
still connected.

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> "TT" <TTencerNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>> "JD" <nospam@getlost.com> wrote in message
>> news:441a42fe$0$18513$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> Im running a 5.1 sound system at the moment and am
>> wondering is there a big
>>> difference between this and DTS sound. What
>> recommendations do you have for
>>> a entry priced DTS system.
>>>
>>> JD
>>>
>>>
>> I'm afraid you haven't asked the right question. DTS can be
>> 5.1.
>>
>> 5.1 = 5 channels of sound + a LFE channel. You can also
>> have other combinations e.g. 2.0, 4.0, 5.0, 6.1 etc.
>>
>> Now DTS = Digital Theatre Sound so it is a codec. What I
>> "think" you want to know is what is the difference between
>> DTS and DD (Dolby Digital)
>>
>> Full bit rate DTS is about 1/3 compression and DD is about
>> 1/12 compression. Both are lossy formats i.e they throw
>> bits of information away. In an ideal World the less you
>> throw away the better the sound. Like MP3 codecs.
>>
>> As far as a DTS system goes all you need is the decoder *IF*
>> you already have someway of running 5.1 speakers.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Cheers TT
>>
>>
>
> Yes the information helps. Thanks for the insight.
>

Alan Rutlidge

19-03-2006, 08:27 PM

"Saus29" <myob@nosey.com> wrote in message
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> DTS is a very aggressive surround, you will definitely hear your surrounds
> as opposed to DD where you need to check periodically to see if they are
> still connected.

ROFLMAO

>
> "JD" <nospam@getlost.com> wrote in message
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>> "TT" <TTencerNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "JD" <nospam@getlost.com> wrote in message
>>> news:441a42fe$0$18513$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>> Im running a 5.1 sound system at the moment and am
>>> wondering is there a big
>>>> difference between this and DTS sound. What
>>> recommendations do you have for
>>>> a entry priced DTS system.
>>>>
>>>> JD
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm afraid you haven't asked the right question. DTS can be
>>> 5.1.
>>>
>>> 5.1 = 5 channels of sound + a LFE channel. You can also
>>> have other combinations e.g. 2.0, 4.0, 5.0, 6.1 etc.
>>>
>>> Now DTS = Digital Theatre Sound so it is a codec. What I
>>> "think" you want to know is what is the difference between
>>> DTS and DD (Dolby Digital)
>>>
>>> Full bit rate DTS is about 1/3 compression and DD is about
>>> 1/12 compression. Both are lossy formats i.e they throw
>>> bits of information away. In an ideal World the less you
>>> throw away the better the sound. Like MP3 codecs.
>>>
>>> As far as a DTS system goes all you need is the decoder *IF*
>>> you already have someway of running 5.1 speakers.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Cheers TT
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes the information helps. Thanks for the insight.
>>
>
>

19-03-2006, 08:27 PM

Saus29

19-03-2006, 11:55 PM

"TT" <TTencerNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Saus29" <myob@nosey.com> wrote in message
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> et.au...
>> DTS is a very aggressive surround, you will definitely
> hear your surrounds
>> as opposed to DD where you need to check periodically to
> see if they are
>> still connected.
>
>
> Hi Saus29,
>
> Perhaps you would elaborate just a little bit here please?
> While Alan is a little sceptical of your observation I will
> give you the benefit of the doubt. What brings you to this
> conclusion and do you have any data to back it up?
>
> Cheers TT
>
>
what data? this is an ears perception only forum, otherwise directional
speaker wire would have you committed.
anywhoo, certain studios products bearing the dual format in sound options
have different characteristics in the surrounds, being what was outlined
above.

19-03-2006, 11:55 PM

"Saus29" <myob@nosey.com> wrote in message
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> "TT" <TTencerNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> > "Saus29" <myob@nosey.com> wrote in message
> >
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> > et.au...
> >> DTS is a very aggressive surround, you will definitely
> > hear your surrounds
> >> as opposed to DD where you need to check periodically
to
> > see if they are
> >> still connected.
> >
> >
> > Hi Saus29,
> >
> > Perhaps you would elaborate just a little bit here
please?
> > While Alan is a little sceptical of your observation I
will
> > give you the benefit of the doubt. What brings you to
this
> > conclusion and do you have any data to back it up?
> >
> > Cheers TT
> >
> >
> what data? this is an ears perception only forum,
otherwise directional
> speaker wire would have you committed.
> anywhoo, certain studios products bearing the dual format
in sound options
> have different characteristics in the surrounds, being
what was outlined
> above.
>
>
OK then can you name at least one title that this is evident
on (3 or 4 would be preferable) and I will do the
comparison of the rear channels and run it through some
spectral analyses.

Cheers TT

Italo

20-03-2006, 09:47 PM

"TT" <TTencerNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> OK then can you name at least one title that this is evident
> on (3 or 4 would be preferable) and I will do the
> comparison of the rear channels and run it through some
> spectral analyses.
>
> Cheers TT

Why even bother with the question. Fanboys don't need facts they just make
it up as they go along.

--
Italo

Phil Abel

22-03-2006, 01:28 PM

23-03-2006, 05:02 AM

"Phil Abel" <philabel@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> "JD" <nospam@getlost.com> wrote in message
>
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> > Im running a 5.1 sound system at the moment and am
wondering is there a
> > big
> > difference between this and DTS sound. What
recommendations do you have
> > for
> > a entry priced DTS system.
>
> DTS has a better clarity of sound ( richer and fuller )
than DD5.1
> IMEO (In my ears opinion))
>
> >
> > JD
That's because it is less compressed ;-)

Cheers TT

Phil Abel

24-03-2006, 09:33 AM

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> "Phil Abel" <philabel@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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>> "JD" <nospam@getlost.com> wrote in message
>>
> news:441a42fe$0$18513$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> > Im running a 5.1 sound system at the moment and am
> wondering is there a
>> > big
>> > difference between this and DTS sound. What
> recommendations do you have
>> > for
>> > a entry priced DTS system.
>>
>> DTS has a better clarity of sound ( richer and fuller )
> than DD5.1
>> IMEO (In my ears opinion))
>>
>> >
>> > JD
> That's because it is less compressed ;-)
>
> Cheers TT

Don't get too cheeky, remember my name starts with Phil A ;-)