New dilemma

[Youngin...]

Well now that my old Onkyo is sold I have decided to look for a new
receiver. I was going to try to keep the price under $450US or $650 can
but i've decided to spend a little more $900can or about $650US. I
really like the Denon 2105 ($950can) but I know I can get a brand new
Pioneer 1014 for $675can out the door. Oh the dilemma.

young...

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:

>As I replied to another of your posts, what dilemma?
>The Denon is a prom queen and the pioneer is the whore from the
bowling
>alley. Its a no brainer, really

Perhaps the dilemma is deciding how much he wants to spend on the
receiver, not which is better.
For instance, my Paradigm Reference Studio speakers are (subjectively)
better than your B&W's.
Both are excellent values IMO, but at different price points. Doesn't
make one a prom queen, and the other the whore from the bowling
alley...

Jeff

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

I wrote:

>Perhaps the dilemma is deciding how much he wants to spend on the
>receiver, not which is better.
>For instance, my Paradigm Reference Studio speakers are (subjectively)
>better than your B&W's.
>Both are excellent values IMO, but at different price points. Doesn't
>make one a prom queen, and the other the whore from the bowling
>alley...

And even if it DID make the other the whore from the bowling alley,
they have their uses too! ; )

Jeff

[Oliver Costich]

On 20 Jan 2005 21:22:11 -0800, "1shado1@sbcglobal.net"
<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I wrote:
>
>>Perhaps the dilemma is deciding how much he wants to spend on the
>>receiver, not which is better.
>>For instance, my Paradigm Reference Studio speakers are (subjectively)
>>better than your B&W's.
>>Both are excellent values IMO, but at different price points. Doesn't
>>make one a prom queen, and the other the whore from the bowling
>>alley...
>
>And even if it DID make the other the whore from the bowling alley,
>they have their uses too! ; )
>
>Jeff

Right. The whore from the bowling alley is probably a lot more
satifying.

[Clams Canino]

Absolutely.

-W

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> And even if it DID make the other the whore from the bowling alley,
> they have their uses too! ; )
>
> Jeff
>

"Youngin..." <youngmarin@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Well now that my old Onkyo is sold I have decided to look for a new
> receiver. I was going to try to keep the price under $450US or $650 can
> but i've decided to spend a little more $900can or about $650US. I
> really like the Denon 2105 ($950can) but I know I can get a brand new
> Pioneer 1014 for $675can out the door. Oh the dilemma.
>
> young...
As I replied to another of your posts, what dilemma?
The Denon is a prom queen and the pioneer is the whore from the bowling
alley. Its a no brainer, really

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> >As I replied to another of your posts, what dilemma?
> >The Denon is a prom queen and the pioneer is the whore from the
> bowling
> >alley. Its a no brainer, really
>
> Perhaps the dilemma is deciding how much he wants to spend on the
> receiver, not which is better.
> For instance, my Paradigm Reference Studio speakers are (subjectively)
> better than your B&W's.
> Both are excellent values IMO, but at different price points. Doesn't
> make one a prom queen, and the other the whore from the bowling
> alley...
> ANY pioneer is going to be a whore from the bowling alley, "price points"
doesnt have a flipping thing to do with it any more than the "point" on your
head.
The cheapest Denon is miles better in terms of quality and enginerring than
any Pioneer, excepting the elite models and I'm not sure about those. I've
owned both anD pioneers are gimickey, cluttered jury rigged pieces of junk
compared to your average Denon, what the hell does price have to do with it?
Instead of a higher line pioneer get a "lower line" Denon ANDyou will STILL
do better.
In other words I'd rather have a Mercedes bicycle than a top of the line
"CRY" SLER
> Jef
>

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:

>ANY pioneer is going to be a whore from the bowling alley,* "price
points"
>doesnt have a flipping thing to do with it any more than the* "point"
on your
>head.
>The cheapest Denon is miles better in terms of quality and
e*nginerring than
>any Pioneer, excepting the elite models and I'm not sure abo*ut
those. I've
>owned both anD pioneers are gimickey, cluttered jury rigged *pieces
of junk
>compared to your average Denon, what the hell does price hav*e to do
with it?
>Instead of a higher line pioneer get a "lower line" Denon AN*Dyou
will STILL
>do better.
>In other words I'd rather have a Mercedes bicycle than a top* of the
line
>"CRY" SLER

Then why didn't you SUGGEST a cheaper Denon model in the FIRST place,
as cost WAS one of the issues to be considered? My main point was that
comparing THAT model Denon to THAT model Pioneer wasn't fair. Douche
bag...

Jeff

AND your parasites cost more, doesnt nessesarily make them better, although
having never heard them I would'nt know(and dont really care)
<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> >As I replied to another of your posts, what dilemma?
> >The Denon is a prom queen and the pioneer is the whore from the
> bowling
> >alley. Its a no brainer, really
>
> Perhaps the dilemma is deciding how much he wants to spend on the
> receiver, not which is better.
> For instance, my Paradigm Reference Studio speakers are (subjectively)
> better than your B&W's.
> Both are excellent values IMO, but at different price points. Doesn't
> make one a prom queen, and the other the whore from the bowling
> alley...
>
> Jeff
>

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:
> AND your parasites cost more, doesnt nessesarily make them better,
although
> having never heard them I would'nt know(and dont really care)

Well, then why did you choose to make such disparaging remarks about my
choice of speakers, way back in the first argument we got into a couple
of months ago, if you've never even heard them? It appears that you
base both your opinions and supposed facts on your almost unlimited
lack of knowledge. Is it even POSSIBLE for you to pull your head out
of your ass?

Jeff

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:

>ANY pioneer is going to be a whore from the bowling alley,* "price
points"
>doesnt have a flipping thing to do with it any more than the* "point"
on your
>head.
>The cheapest Denon is miles better in terms of quality and
e*nginerring than
>any Pioneer, excepting the elite models and I'm not sure abo*ut
those. I've
>owned both anD pioneers are gimickey, cluttered jury rigged *pieces
of junk
>compared to your average Denon, what the hell does price hav*e to do
with it?
>Instead of a higher line pioneer get a "lower line" Denon AN*Dyou
will STILL
>do better.
>In other words I'd rather have a Mercedes bicycle than a top* of the
line
>"CRY" SLER

Then why didn't you SUGGEST a cheaper Denon model in the FIRST place,
as cost WAS one of the issues to be considered? My main point was that
comparing THAT model Denon to THAT model Pioneer wasn't fair. Douche
bag...

Jeff
WELL, havng to deal with an asshole like you everytime, AND I DO MEAN
EVERYTIME is hardly fair either, but I MANAGE

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

steve99@bellsouth.net wrote:
> WELL, havng to deal with an asshole like you everytime, AND I DO MEAN
> EVERYTIME is hardly fair either, but I MANAGE

You're absolutely correct. You MANAGE to come across as the most
uninformed ignoramus this forum has ever seen. Douche bag.