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developer
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/

rfc- request for comment.

the windmill generator is hoisted and it is working prefectly. will you tell
me the mearsurement of wind speed and revolution.
2. the direction of the wind will produce positive current or negetive
current, but I used LED for testing.

3. now, I have a working model of windmill generator. it will lead me to
design next windmill generation. the windmill is hoisted at about 15-18 feet
above the ground.

TIA.

solar power arm board development team


http://arm.web7days.com arm board
http://www.web7days.com/led solar
http://www.web7days.com/farm farming

m II
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
developer wrote:



> http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/
>
> rfc- request for comment.

> 2. the direction of the wind will produce positive current or negetive


Please tell me how this happens. How does it know when to make positive OR
negative current?



Thank you for your time.




mike

Richard Sterry
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
"developer" <noemail@sina.com> wrote in message
news:crmaob$c9c1@imsp212.netvigator.com...
> http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/
>
> rfc- request for comment.
>
> the windmill generator is hoisted and it is working prefectly. will you
> tell
> me the mearsurement of wind speed and revolution.
> 2. the direction of the wind will produce positive current or negetive
> current, but I used LED for testing.
>
> 3. now, I have a working model of windmill generator. it will lead me to
> design next windmill generation. the windmill is hoisted at about 15-18
> feet
> above the ground.
>
> TIA.
>
> solar power arm board development team
>
>
> http://arm.web7days.com arm board
> http://www.web7days.com/led solar
> http://www.web7days.com/farm farming

Where do you put the grain, and where does the ground flour come out?

Rick

m II
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
developer wrote:
> http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/
>
> rfc- request for comment.





How will you keep the wire from wrapping around the pole when the turbine
turns around in the wind?

http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/tn/Pict00022.jpg.html


I noticed you had a nut and washer missing on one of the U bolts that hold
the alternator in place. Will this cause problems later?

Why no pictures of the converted motor that the blades are connected to?




mike

John Woodgate
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
I read in sci.electronics.design that m II <ohmworkLEOPARD@spots.ca>
wrote (in <TWzDd.3609$06.1137@clgrps12>) about 'windmill being hoisted',
on Fri, 7 Jan 2005:
>developer wrote:
>
>
>
>> http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/
>>
>> rfc- request for comment.
>
>> 2. the direction of the wind will produce positive current or negetive
>
>
>Please tell me how this happens. How does it know when to make positive
>OR negative current?
>

Sorry, your poor English or your lack of time to write an understandable
message prevents anyone giving an answer. If you speak Spanish and send
your message in that language, someone here might translate enough of
your message to allow us to answer it.

If you do not speak Spanish, please tell us your own language and we
will try to help.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

developer
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
the prevention of the twisting the wire is also solved days ago. I even
think of a simple method when the wielding master helping meto do the
wielding on his workshop.
I carried the long pipe ( 15-18) feet in the shoulder and walking 1000 M to
do the wielding. I felt very sore to-day.

developer
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
"developer" <noemail@sina.com> дÈëÓʼþ
news:crn8lr$s8k3@imsp212.netvigator.com...
> the prevention of the twisting the wire is also solved days ago. I even
> think of a simple method when the wielding master helping meto do the
> wielding on his workshop.
> I carried the long pipe ( 15-18) feet in the shoulder and walking 1000 M
to
> do the wielding. I felt very sore to-day.
>
>

I drop the nut and I cannot find it at the moment even I used magnetic to
search the grass.


TIA.

solar power arm board development team


http://arm.web7days.com arm board
http://www.web7days.com/led solar
http://www.web7days.com/farm farming

Xian
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 08:14:57 +0800, "developer" <noemail@sina.com>
wrote:

>the prevention of the twisting the wire is also solved days ago. I even
>think of a simple method when the wielding master helping meto do the
>wielding on his workshop.
>I carried the long pipe ( 15-18) feet in the shoulder and walking 1000 M to
>do the wielding. I felt very sore to-day.
>


Hey Shit-head, just what the fuck has this to do with HK.Forsale
Newsgroup?????

Just FUCK OFF out'a here !

Benny Cemoli
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Benny Cemoli wrote:
> developer wrote:
>
>> "developer" <noemail@sina.com> дÈëÓʼþ
>> news:crn8lr$s8k3@imsp212.netvigator.com...
>>
>>> the prevention of the twisting the wire is also solved days ago. I even
>>> think of a simple method when the wielding master helping meto do the
>>> wielding on his workshop.
>>> I carried the long pipe ( 15-18) feet in the shoulder and walking 1000 M
>>
>>
>> to
>>
>>> do the wielding. I felt very sore to-day.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I drop the nut and I cannot find it at the moment even I used magnetic to
>> search the grass.
>>


Unfortunately, the nut is clearly visible in all of the groups you are
crossposting to...


>>
>> TIA.
>>
>> solar power arm board development team
>>
>>
>> http://arm.web7days.com arm board
>> http://www.web7days.com/led solar
>> http://www.web7days.com/farm farming
>>
>>
>>

m II
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
John Woodgate wrote:
> I read in sci.electronics.design that m II <ohmworkLEOPARD@spots.ca>
> wrote (in <TWzDd.3609$06.1137@clgrps12>) about 'windmill being hoisted',
> on Fri, 7 Jan 2005:
>
>>developer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/
>>>
>>>rfc- request for comment.
>>
>>>2. the direction of the wind will produce positive current or negetive
>>
>>
>>Please tell me how this happens. How does it know when to make positive
>>OR negative current?
>>
>
>
> Sorry, your poor English or your lack of time to write an understandable
> message prevents anyone giving an answer. If you speak Spanish and send
> your message in that language, someone here might translate enough of
> your message to allow us to answer it.
>
> If you do not speak Spanish, please tell us your own language and we
> will try to help.



pero mi Español, ella es *badder* que mi Inglés


miguel II

--

The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so
much that ain't so.

~Josh Billings

m II
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
developer wrote:

> I drop the nut and I cannot find it at the moment even I used magnetic to
> search the grass.


That reminds me of *me*




mike

ZZZPK
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Xian <user@anonymous.org> wrote:

: Hey xxxxxxxxx, just what the fuck has this to do with HK.Forsale
: Newsgroup?????
:
: Just xxxx xxx out'a here !

ha ha ha.... just the kinda language for uk.amateur radio :-)

ZZZPK
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
"developer" <noemail@sina.com> wrote:

: http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/

i'm not sure bt i think thats theres an atv repeater in ireland
that has its power topped up by a windmill type thingy.

interesting project.

rotation of the head during wind change is the next hurdle.

m II
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
ZZZPK wrote:

> Xian <user@anonymous.org> wrote:
>
> : Hey xxxxxxxxx, just what the fuck has this to do with HK.Forsale
> : Newsgroup?????
> :
> : Just xxxx xxx out'a here !
>
> ha ha ha.... just the kinda language for uk.amateur radio :-)
>

The Honk Kong salesman types are obviously a vulgar lot and not fit for
polite company. I'd not buy anything Chinese made until they complete their
manners and etiquette courses. That and getting out of Tibet.




mike

Morten
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
"m II" <ohmworkLEOPARD@spots.ca> wrote in message
news:lNTDd.4665$06.2205@clgrps12...
> ZZZPK wrote:
>
> > Xian <user@anonymous.org> wrote:
> >
> > : Hey xxxxxxxxx, just what the fuck has this to do with HK.Forsale
> > : Newsgroup?????
> > :
> > : Just xxxx xxx out'a here !
> >
> > ha ha ha.... just the kinda language for uk.amateur radio :-)
> >
>
> The Honk Kong salesman types are obviously a vulgar lot and not fit for
> polite company. I'd not buy anything Chinese made until they complete
their
> manners and etiquette courses. That and getting out of Tibet.

Well, I could use the same argument about the US and Iraq, at least the
illegal invasion part, and stop buying anything from the US. If it wasn't
because our own prime minister (Tony Blair) is just a crooked as President
Bush it would actually make sense to complain (you know the stone / living
in a glass house thingy)...


I'll still complain about the illegal invasion of Iraq though...


/Morten




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m II
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Morten wrote:

> Well, I could use the same argument about the US and Iraq, at least the
> illegal invasion part, and stop buying anything from the US. If it wasn't
> because our own prime minister (Tony Blair) is just a crooked as President
> Bush it would actually make sense to complain (you know the stone / living
> in a glass house thingy)...


He seems to be in good company here:

http://www.hated-celebrities.co.uk/

please vote


>
> I'll still complain about the illegal invasion of Iraq though...

It's an atrocity that will go down in history as an act worse that the Nazi
invasion of Poland.


mike

Alan
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:44:18 +0800, "developer" <noemail@sina.com>
wrote:

>http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/
>
>rfc- request for comment.

Question: why was this crossposted to :
alt.energy.homepower,alt.energy.renewable,alt.supp ort.survivors,aus.computers.linux,comp.home.automa tion,hk.forsale,sci.electronics.design,uk.radio.am ateur?

I've set my follow-up to what seems a reasonably relevant group.

Alan
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:22:41 GMT, m II <ohmworkLEOPARD@spots.ca>
wrote:

>ZZZPK wrote:
>
>> Xian <user@anonymous.org> wrote:
>>
>> : Hey xxxxxxxxx, just what the fuck has this to do with HK.Forsale
>> : Newsgroup?????
>> :
>> : Just xxxx xxx out'a here !
>>
>> ha ha ha.... just the kinda language for uk.amateur radio :-)
>>
>
>The Honk Kong salesman types are obviously a vulgar lot and not fit for
>polite company. I'd not buy anything Chinese made until they complete their
>manners and etiquette courses. That and getting out of Tibet.

You may recall that Hong Kong was British colony when the PRC invaded
Tibet. So don't blame us. And even now, it's not like we have a vote
or any way to influence the Beijing government. Thanks to Maggie for
selling us down the river.

John Woodgate
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
I read in sci.electronics.design that Alan <none@none.com> wrote (in
<tm12u093thithrg16igsoigqemfhribp9g@4ax.com>) about 'windmill being
hoisted', on Sun, 9 Jan 2005:
>You may recall that Hong Kong was British colony when the PRC invaded
>Tibet. So don't blame us. And even now, it's not like we have a vote or
>any way to influence the Beijing government. Thanks to Maggie for
>selling us down the river.

Herself didn't have any choice. Hong Kong was leased under a treaty
until 1999, and not even Mrs. T was into breaking treaties with 'big
guys' like China. Besides, we couldn't defend it; if we had tried to
break the treaty, China would have just walked in and taken over.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

Bob Yates
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
m II wrote:
>> I'll still complain about the illegal invasion of Iraq though...
>
>
> It's an atrocity that will go down in history as an act worse that the
> Nazi invasion of Poland.
>
>
> mike

The USA has a long history of unprovoked attacks, look at WWII when they
attacked Germany, using an attack by Japan as the excuse. Or, the
destruction of the CSA, just to expand their tax base.

John Woodgate
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
I read in sci.electronics.design that Bob Yates
<bobwyates@earthlink.net> wrote (in <BrcEd.2329$Ii4.480@newsread3.news.p
as.earthlink.net>) about 'windmill being hoisted', on Sun, 9 Jan 2005:

>The USA has a long history of unprovoked attacks, look at WWII when they
>attacked Germany, using an attack by Japan as the excuse. Or, the
>destruction of the CSA, just to expand their tax base.

UL has invaded CSA and annexed it? (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

Rich MacDonald
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
m II <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in news:qB6Ed.84204$KO5.65531@clgrps13:

> It's an atrocity that will go down in history as an act worse that the
> Nazi invasion of Poland.

Thanks for the opportunity to use Godwin's law and call you an SFB at the
same time.

m II
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
John Woodgate wrote:

> UL has invaded CSA and annexed it? (;-)


A 'Standard' procedure?



mike

m II
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Bob Yates wrote:

> The USA has a long history of unprovoked attacks, look at WWII when they
> attacked Germany, using an attack by Japan as the excuse. Or, the
> destruction of the CSA, just to expand their tax base.


The northern factories wanted cheap cotton. The northern politicians were no
different than today's crop of corrupt bribe takers.

Slavery and human rights had nothing to do with the Civil War. What Sherman
did on the way to the coast was a war crime of the same status as the
Baghdad bombardment. Atlanta was another..







mike

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developer wrote:



> http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/
>
> rfc- request for comment.

> 2. the direction of the wind will produce positive current or negetive


Please tell me how this happens. How does it know when to make positive OR
negative current?



Thank you for your time.




mike

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John Woodgate wrote:
> I read in sci.electronics.design that m II <ohmworkLEOPARD@spots.ca>
> wrote (in <TWzDd.3609$06.1137@clgrps12>) about 'windmill being hoisted',
> on Fri, 7 Jan 2005:
>
>>developer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/
>>>
>>>rfc- request for comment.
>>
>>>2. the direction of the wind will produce positive current or negetive
>>
>>
>>Please tell me how this happens. How does it know when to make positive
>>OR negative current?
>>
>
>
> Sorry, your poor English or your lack of time to write an understandable
> message prevents anyone giving an answer. If you speak Spanish and send
> your message in that language, someone here might translate enough of
> your message to allow us to answer it.
>
> If you do not speak Spanish, please tell us your own language and we
> will try to help.



pero mi Español, ella es *badder* que mi Inglés


miguel II

--

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much that ain't so.

~Josh Billings

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developer wrote:
> http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/
>
> rfc- request for comment.





How will you keep the wire from wrapping around the pole when the turbine
turns around in the wind?

http://www.web7days.com/hydro/windmill2/tn/Pict00022.jpg.html


I noticed you had a nut and washer missing on one of the U bolts that hold
the alternator in place. Will this cause problems later?

Why no pictures of the converted motor that the blades are connected to?




mike

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ZZZPK wrote:

> Xian <user@anonymous.org> wrote:
>
> : Hey xxxxxxxxx, just what the fuck has this to do with HK.Forsale
> : Newsgroup?????
> :
> : Just xxxx xxx out'a here !
>
> ha ha ha.... just the kinda language for uk.amateur radio :-)
>

The Honk Kong salesman types are obviously a vulgar lot and not fit for
polite company. I'd not buy anything Chinese made until they complete their
manners and etiquette courses. That and getting out of Tibet.




mike

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Morten wrote:

> Well, I could use the same argument about the US and Iraq, at least the
> illegal invasion part, and stop buying anything from the US. If it wasn't
> because our own prime minister (Tony Blair) is just a crooked as President
> Bush it would actually make sense to complain (you know the stone / living
> in a glass house thingy)...


He seems to be in good company here:

http://www.hated-celebrities.co.uk/

please vote


>
> I'll still complain about the illegal invasion of Iraq though...

It's an atrocity that will go down in history as an act worse that the Nazi
invasion of Poland.


mike

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John Woodgate wrote:

> UL has invaded CSA and annexed it? (;-)


A 'Standard' procedure?



mike

"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message news:g6fEd.54942$nN6.3384@edtnps84...
> John Woodgate wrote:
>
> > UL has invaded CSA and annexed it? (;-)
>
>
> A 'Standard' procedure?
>
>
>
> mike
>

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Bob Yates wrote:

> The USA has a long history of unprovoked attacks, look at WWII when they
> attacked Germany, using an attack by Japan as the excuse. Or, the
> destruction of the CSA, just to expand their tax base.


The northern factories wanted cheap cotton. The northern politicians were no
different than today's crop of corrupt bribe takers.

Slavery and human rights had nothing to do with the Civil War. What Sherman
did on the way to the coast was a war crime of the same status as the
Baghdad bombardment. Atlanta was another..







mike
"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message
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> Bob Yates wrote:
>
> > The USA has a long history of unprovoked attacks, look at WWII when they
> > attacked Germany, using an attack by Japan as the excuse. Or, the
> > destruction of the CSA, just to expand their tax base.
>
>
> The northern factories wanted cheap cotton. The northern politicians were
no
> different than today's crop of corrupt bribe takers.
>
> Slavery and human rights had nothing to do with the Civil War. What
Sherman
> did on the way to the coast was a war crime of the same status as the
> Baghdad bombardment. Atlanta was another..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> mike

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Morten wrote:

> Well, I could use the same argument about the US and Iraq, at least the
> illegal invasion part, and stop buying anything from the US. If it wasn't
> because our own prime minister (Tony Blair) is just a crooked as President
> Bush it would actually make sense to complain (you know the stone / living
> in a glass house thingy)...


He seems to be in good company here:

http://www.hated-celebrities.co.uk/

please vote


>
> I'll still complain about the illegal invasion of Iraq though...

It's an atrocity that will go down in history as an act worse that the Nazi
invasion of Poland.


mike
"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message
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> Morten wrote:
>
> > Well, I could use the same argument about the US and Iraq, at least the
> > illegal invasion part, and stop buying anything from the US. If it
wasn't
> > because our own prime minister (Tony Blair) is just a crooked as
President
> > Bush it would actually make sense to complain (you know the stone /
living
> > in a glass house thingy)...
>
>
> He seems to be in good company here:
>
> http://www.hated-celebrities.co.uk/
>
> please vote
>
>
> >
> > I'll still complain about the illegal invasion of Iraq though...
>
> It's an atrocity that will go down in history as an act worse that the
Nazi
> invasion of Poland.
>
>
> mike

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John Woodgate wrote:

> UL has invaded CSA and annexed it? (;-)


A 'Standard' procedure?



mike

"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message news:g6fEd.54942$nN6.3384@edtnps84...
> John Woodgate wrote:
>
> > UL has invaded CSA and annexed it? (;-)
>
>
> A 'Standard' procedure?
>
>
>
> mike
>

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"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message
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> Bob Yates wrote:
>
> > The USA has a long history of unprovoked attacks, look at WWII when they
> > attacked Germany, using an attack by Japan as the excuse. Or, the
> > destruction of the CSA, just to expand their tax base.
>
>
> The northern factories wanted cheap cotton. The northern politicians were
no
> different than today's crop of corrupt bribe takers.
>
> Slavery and human rights had nothing to do with the Civil War. What
Sherman
> did on the way to the coast was a war crime of the same status as the
> Baghdad bombardment. Atlanta was another..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> mike

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Morten wrote:

> Well, I could use the same argument about the US and Iraq, at least the
> illegal invasion part, and stop buying anything from the US. If it wasn't
> because our own prime minister (Tony Blair) is just a crooked as President
> Bush it would actually make sense to complain (you know the stone / living
> in a glass house thingy)...


He seems to be in good company here:

http://www.hated-celebrities.co.uk/

please vote


>
> I'll still complain about the illegal invasion of Iraq though...

It's an atrocity that will go down in history as an act worse that the Nazi
invasion of Poland.


mike
"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message
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> Morten wrote:
>
> > Well, I could use the same argument about the US and Iraq, at least the
> > illegal invasion part, and stop buying anything from the US. If it
wasn't
> > because our own prime minister (Tony Blair) is just a crooked as
President
> > Bush it would actually make sense to complain (you know the stone /
living
> > in a glass house thingy)...
>
>
> He seems to be in good company here:
>
> http://www.hated-celebrities.co.uk/
>
> please vote
>
>
> >
> > I'll still complain about the illegal invasion of Iraq though...
>
> It's an atrocity that will go down in history as an act worse that the
Nazi
> invasion of Poland.
>
>
> mike

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John Woodgate wrote:

> UL has invaded CSA and annexed it? (;-)


A 'Standard' procedure?



mike

"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message news:g6fEd.54942$nN6.3384@edtnps84...
> John Woodgate wrote:
>
> > UL has invaded CSA and annexed it? (;-)
>
>
> A 'Standard' procedure?
>
>
>
> mike
>

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Bob Yates wrote:

> The USA has a long history of unprovoked attacks, look at WWII when they
> attacked Germany, using an attack by Japan as the excuse. Or, the
> destruction of the CSA, just to expand their tax base.


The northern factories wanted cheap cotton. The northern politicians were no
different than today's crop of corrupt bribe takers.

Slavery and human rights had nothing to do with the Civil War. What Sherman
did on the way to the coast was a war crime of the same status as the
Baghdad bombardment. Atlanta was another..







mike
"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message
news:cegEd.55662$nN6.41892@edtnps84...
> Bob Yates wrote:
>
> > The USA has a long history of unprovoked attacks, look at WWII when they
> > attacked Germany, using an attack by Japan as the excuse. Or, the
> > destruction of the CSA, just to expand their tax base.
>
>
> The northern factories wanted cheap cotton. The northern politicians were
no
> different than today's crop of corrupt bribe takers.
>
> Slavery and human rights had nothing to do with the Civil War. What
Sherman
> did on the way to the coast was a war crime of the same status as the
> Baghdad bombardment. Atlanta was another..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> mike

LurryLixxxx
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message
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> Bob Yates wrote:
>
> > The USA has a long history of unprovoked attacks, look at WWII when they
> > attacked Germany, using an attack by Japan as the excuse. Or, the
> > destruction of the CSA, just to expand their tax base.
>
>
> The northern factories wanted cheap cotton. The northern politicians were
no
> different than today's crop of corrupt bribe takers.
>
> Slavery and human rights had nothing to do with the Civil War. What
Sherman
> did on the way to the coast was a war crime of the same status as the
> Baghdad bombardment. Atlanta was another..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> mike

Xian
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:55:08 GMT, m II <C@In.The.Hat> wrote:

>John Woodgate wrote:
>
>> UL has invaded CSA and annexed it? (;-)
>
>
>A 'Standard' procedure?
>
>
>
>mike


....And yet WHAT THE FUCK is this CRAP doing intruding into the
HK.FORSALE Newsgroup ?????????????

m II
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Xian wrote:

> ...And yet WHAT THE FUCK is this CRAP doing intruding into the
> HK.FORSALE Newsgroup ?????????????


No need to be so rude. You certainly aren't from the orient, you vulgar cretin.






mike

Luuury_Lixxxx
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
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Xian wrote:

> ...And yet WHAT THE FUCK is this CRAP doing intruding into the
> HK.FORSALE Newsgroup ?????????????


No need to be so rude. You certainly aren't from the orient, you vulgar
cretin.






mike
"m II" <C@In.The.Hat> wrote in message
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> Xian wrote:
>
> > ...And yet WHAT THE FUCK is this CRAP doing intruding into the
> > HK.FORSALE Newsgroup ?????????????
>
>
> No need to be so rude. You certainly aren't from the orient, you vulgar
cretin.
>
>
>
>
>
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> mike

ZZZPK
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
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