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jaykchan@hotmail.com
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
I am looking for a way to share one incoming phone line (only 2-wires
are connected) with 6 phone outlets. So far, with the help of people in
this newsgroup, I have identified at least two devices that can do
this: 66-block or 110-block. But I want to be able to use RJ45 ot RJ11
style jacks and plugs as the connection method instead of hard wiring
(66-block and 110-block require hard wiring). Then I can move the phone
connection around. I have found this product from Channel Vision:
8-outlets RJ45 Telephone Distribution Module (product# C-0436)
as shown in their web site:
http://www.channelvision.com/index.php?exec=products

Its price is right. It is cheaper than what I can get if I use a
combination of 110-block and a couple RJ45 jacks. But I have two
questions on it:
1. Can I plug a regular RJ11 phone plug into the RJ45 and expect this
to work? This device uses RJ45 jacks; but my phone wiring is all cat-1
or cat-3 with RJ11 plugs.
2. I want to use a device to use one incoming phone line and share it
with 8 phone outlets. Can this device do this?

Unfortunately, I cannot use their email system to leave a message to
them (the sent-to address is missing), and I don't want to call them in
long distance. Therefore, I am asking around here to see if you can
help me with this.

Thanks.

By the way, I prefer to use RJ45 connection rather than hardwiring. The
reason is that I have three types of phone input feeds:
- Regular analog
- DSL line (splitted from the analog)
- SkyPe VoIP from my computer (indirectly from the DSL line)
And I have 6 phone outlets.

I want to be able to mix and match the 3 input feeds to the 6 outlets.
I can connect the DSL line to outlet#1, connect the VoIP line to
outlet#2, and connect the regular analog line to all the other outlets.
If I want to, I can very easily change the connection, and connect the
DSL line to outlet#5 -- just by unplugging and re-plugging without
touching the actual wires. This is the reason why I like to use
RJ45/RJ11 connection instead of hardwiring.

Jay Chan

BruceR
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
That will work but why not just wire them all up and be done with it.
Here's a simple and inexpensive block prewired for that purpose (scroll
to bottom of page). You can order the block and the tool and be out the
door for under $35:
http://www.sandman.com/pdf/Page107.pdf


From:jaykchan@hotmail.com
jaykchan@hotmail.com

> I am looking for a way to share one incoming phone line (only 2-wires
> are connected) with 6 phone outlets. So far, with the help of people
> in this newsgroup, I have identified at least two devices that can do
> this: 66-block or 110-block. But I want to be able to use RJ45 ot RJ11
> style jacks and plugs as the connection method instead of hard wiring
> (66-block and 110-block require hard wiring). Then I can move the
> phone connection around. I have found this product from Channel
> Vision: 8-outlets RJ45 Telephone Distribution Module (product# C-0436)
> as shown in their web site:
> http://www.channelvision.com/index.php?exec=products
>
> Its price is right. It is cheaper than what I can get if I use a
> combination of 110-block and a couple RJ45 jacks. But I have two
> questions on it:
> 1. Can I plug a regular RJ11 phone plug into the RJ45 and expect this
> to work? This device uses RJ45 jacks; but my phone wiring is all cat-1
> or cat-3 with RJ11 plugs.
> 2. I want to use a device to use one incoming phone line and share it
> with 8 phone outlets. Can this device do this?
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot use their email system to leave a message to
> them (the sent-to address is missing), and I don't want to call them
> in long distance. Therefore, I am asking around here to see if you can
> help me with this.
>
> Thanks.
>
> By the way, I prefer to use RJ45 connection rather than hardwiring.
> The reason is that I have three types of phone input feeds:
> - Regular analog
> - DSL line (splitted from the analog)
> - SkyPe VoIP from my computer (indirectly from the DSL line)
> And I have 6 phone outlets.
>
> I want to be able to mix and match the 3 input feeds to the 6 outlets.
> I can connect the DSL line to outlet#1, connect the VoIP line to
> outlet#2, and connect the regular analog line to all the other
> outlets. If I want to, I can very easily change the connection, and
> connect the DSL line to outlet#5 -- just by unplugging and
> re-plugging without touching the actual wires. This is the reason why
> I like to use RJ45/RJ11 connection instead of hardwiring.
>
> Jay Chan

BruceR
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Here's a better picture:
http://store1.yimg.com/I/phonesystem_1816_2795751
Based on what you've described you want to do and your "beginner"
status, I think you'll find this to be the best solution for you. You
connect the telco wires at the top and the station wires below and you
are done. You can use a 110 punch tool or simply get the little tool
shown. The Sandman catalog is full of interesting products too.

From:BruceR
brNOSPAM@hawaii.com

> That will work but why not just wire them all up and be done with it.
> Here's a simple and inexpensive block prewired for that purpose
> (scroll to bottom of page). You can order the block and the tool and
> be out the door for under $35:
> http://www.sandman.com/pdf/Page107.pdf
>
>
> From:jaykchan@hotmail.com
> jaykchan@hotmail.com
>
>> I am looking for a way to share one incoming phone line (only 2-wires
>> are connected) with 6 phone outlets. So far, with the help of people
>> in this newsgroup, I have identified at least two devices that can do
>> this: 66-block or 110-block. But I want to be able to use RJ45 ot
>> RJ11 style jacks and plugs as the connection method instead of hard
>> wiring (66-block and 110-block require hard wiring). Then I can move
>> the phone connection around. I have found this product from Channel
>> Vision: 8-outlets RJ45 Telephone Distribution Module (product#
>> C-0436) as shown in their web site:
>> http://www.channelvision.com/index.php?exec=products
>>
>> Its price is right. It is cheaper than what I can get if I use a
>> combination of 110-block and a couple RJ45 jacks. But I have two
>> questions on it:
>> 1. Can I plug a regular RJ11 phone plug into the RJ45 and expect
>> this to work? This device uses RJ45 jacks; but my phone wiring is
>> all cat-1 or cat-3 with RJ11 plugs.
>> 2. I want to use a device to use one incoming phone line and share
>> it with 8 phone outlets. Can this device do this?
>>
>> Unfortunately, I cannot use their email system to leave a message to
>> them (the sent-to address is missing), and I don't want to call them
>> in long distance. Therefore, I am asking around here to see if you
>> can help me with this.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> By the way, I prefer to use RJ45 connection rather than hardwiring.
>> The reason is that I have three types of phone input feeds:
>> - Regular analog
>> - DSL line (splitted from the analog)
>> - SkyPe VoIP from my computer (indirectly from the DSL line)
>> And I have 6 phone outlets.
>>
>> I want to be able to mix and match the 3 input feeds to the 6
>> outlets. I can connect the DSL line to outlet#1, connect the VoIP
>> line to outlet#2, and connect the regular analog line to all the
>> other outlets. If I want to, I can very easily change the
>> connection, and connect the DSL line to outlet#5 -- just by
>> unplugging and re-plugging without touching the actual wires. This
>> is the reason why I like to use RJ45/RJ11 connection instead of
>> hardwiring. Jay Chan

jaykchan@hotmail.com
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
> That will work but,,,

Great! This is exactly what I want to hear.

> why not just wire them all up and be done with it.

What you said would be correct if I only had one source of input feed.
But I will have three different sources of input feeds. As mentioned
in my original post, I need to mix and match those three different
input feeds to 6 outlets, and I expect to re-assign the input feeds to
different outlets from time to time. This is especially true for the
SkyPe VoIP feed from my computer; I probably need to re-assign it to a
different phone outlet from time to time (such as from the basement
outlet to the living room outlet). Therefore, I don't want to hardwire
the lines -- not that I cannot do this, I just find that changing
already hardwired lines is not convenient (especially months later
when I forgot the instruction).

> Here's a simple and inexpensive block prewired for that
> purpose (scroll to bottom of page). You can order the block
> and the tool and be out the door for under $35:

That is cheaper (without the 110 punch down tool) than the RJ45 phone
distribution module that I mentioned in my post -- but not by much,
especially I only need one unit, and I will lose the convenience of
re-assigning in-feed at will. Thanks anyway.

Jay Chan

Sylvan Butler
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:39:18 GMT, BruceR <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote:
> Here's a better picture:
> http://store1.yimg.com/I/phonesystem_1816_2795751
> Based on what you've described you want to do and your "beginner"
> status, I think you'll find this to be the best solution for you. You

I would recommend a patch panel over a 66/110 style block ANY DAY.
That goes for anyone considering telecom infrastructure in their home
anything more sophisticated than the typical electrician daisy-chain.

sdb
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jaykchan@hotmail.com
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
I setup the central phone panel and installed the RJ45 phone
distribution module in last weekend (or was that the week before?).
Everything works.

Now that all the phone connections in the central panel can be easily
plug and unplug, I can re-assign the phone feed to the phone outlet I
want at will.

Jay Chan

jaykchan@hotmail.com
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
I setup the central phone panel and installed the RJ45 phone
distribution module in last weekend (or was that the week before?).
Everything works.

Now that all the phone connections in the central panel can be easily
plug and unplug, I can re-assign the phone feed to the phone outlet I
want at will.

Jay Chan

Sylvan Butler
24-01-2005, 11:41 AM
On 21 Jan 2005 09:47:39 -0800, jaykchan@hotmail.com <jaykchan@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Everything works.
>
> Now that all the phone connections in the central panel can be easily
> plug and unplug, I can re-assign the phone feed to the phone outlet I
> want at will.

Congratulations. :)

sdb


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