LCD panels only get better and better

[DAVO]

Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels and
they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
for all the LCD knockers.

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357


DAVO

[Zappy]

"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> and
> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> for all the LCD knockers.
>
> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
> DAVO

Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.

[David Z]

If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.

"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> and
> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> for all the LCD knockers.
>
> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
> DAVO
>
>

[acalcium]

David Z wrote:
> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
>

That's what they said about the horse and buggy.

[Kissing Lettuce]

Zappy wrote:

> "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> > and
> > they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> > for all the LCD knockers.
> >
> > http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
> >
> >
> > DAVO
>
> Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.



Really?

Care to cite a reference for this assumption

[AnthonyP69]

You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!

This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
plasma.

Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc......

[lcdsareboriganddull@badfromsideontoo.com]

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:26:00 GMT, "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels and
>they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
>for all the LCD knockers.
>
>http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
>DAVO
>

only 37 inches.... sorry too small....
and no side by side comparison with anything...plasma or lcd...

all we have here is a Toshiba sales blurb....

complete wanking........for complete wankers......

[Rob]

AnthonyP69 wrote:
> You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
> effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
> fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!
>
> This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
> plasma.
>
> Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
> technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc......
>

Huh? Sharp have had an impressive 1920x1080 res LCD TV out for months
now. Costs around $9.5K (street price) though!

<http://www.sharp.net.au/catalogue/productinfo.asp?model=LC45G1XSYS>

[Imolator]

Hey Anthonyp69 crt technology also does not follow Moore's law, and
niether does
plasma.

Since when has crt followed Moores's law, this is a ludacris statement.
Every 18mthts twice as fast and 1/2 the price. :) Lcd has its
advantages size and energy consumption being just two, but crt has been
a stagnent technology for a fair while now.


--
Imolator

[Allan]

"acalcium" <acalcium@aol.com> wrote in message
news:42c774f0@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> David Z wrote:
>> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
>>
>
> That's what they said about the horse and buggy.

and the world would be a better place if we still used them now...:>

But really the CRT is a far better format...

Faster refresh rate, not digital Rain effects, No limited life, eg Plasmas
around 10,000 hours of use...

Technology for the sake of technology...

As David said, If it ain't broke....

[DVD Cases]

"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels and
> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> for all the LCD knockers.
>
> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
> DAVO
>
>

work is currently being done on improving the CRT part of
widescreen CRTs so that an 80cm TV would have a
depth of only 30cm.

Supposedly the first models will appear around XMAS 05

CD

[Dyna Soar]

Allan wrote:
> "acalcium" wrote
>> David Z wrote:

>>> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.

>> That's what they said about the horse and buggy.

> and the world would be a better place if we still used them now...:>

> But really the CRT is a far better format...

> Faster refresh rate, not digital Rain effects, No limited life, eg
> Plasmas around 10,000 hours of use...

> Technology for the sake of technology...

> As David said, If it ain't broke....

OK. I wonder how I'd fit a CRT monitor under the lid of my laptop?

--
Dyna

All Rights Reserved. All Wrongs Avenged.

[Gordon]

"acalcium" <acalcium@aol.com> wrote in message
news:42c774f0@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> David Z wrote:
>> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
>>
>
> That's what they said about the horse and buggy.
Not really a valid comparison , now, is it?
G

[Zappy]

"Kissing Lettuce" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:42C76E29.DC69585B@internode.on.net...
> Zappy wrote:
>
>> "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> > Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD
>> > panels
>> > and
>> > they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep
>> > at
>> > for all the LCD knockers.
>> >
>> > http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>> >
>> >
>> > DAVO
>>
>> Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
>
>
>
> Really?
>
> Care to cite a reference for this assumption

If I made an assumption, I wouldn't need a reference.

If it's a fact, then I am not making an assumption.

Goodness me, were you asleep the day they taught clear thinking at primary
school?

>
>
>

[Dyna Soar]

Zappy wrote:
> "Kissing Lettuce" wrote
>> Zappy wrote:

>> Care to cite a reference for this assumption

> If I made an assumption, I wouldn't need a reference.

> If it's a fact, then I am not making an assumption.

> Goodness me, were you asleep the day they taught clear thinking at
> primary school?

JDL doesn't start primary school until next year...


--
Dyna

All Rights Reserved. All Wrongs Avenged.

[RB]

Kissing Lettuce wrote:
> Zappy wrote:
>
>
>>"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>>Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
>>>and
>>>they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
>>>for all the LCD knockers.
>>>
>>>http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>>>
>>>
>>>DAVO
>>
>>Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
>
>
>
>
> Really?
>
> Care to cite a reference for this assumption


I think the fact that plasma televisions are a pile of steaming crap is
a fairly well documented one (short life span, ultra high prices).
Hence them no longer being produced by companies such as Sony.

[kubalister]

AnthonyP69 wrote:
> You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
> effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
> fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!

Sorry to have to break the news to you, but I'm typing this response
whilst viewing a 23" LCD display with a resolution of 1920x1200. Quite a
few manufacturers have now released large 1920x1080 res LCD displays
including Samsung with its 82 inch 1920x1080 res display:
http://www.physorg.com/news3271.html
Samsung 46 and 57 inch HDTV (1920x1080) LCD displays are already
available for purchase.
Sharp also has a lineup of 1920x1080 res LCD displays.
In fact there are now more full HDTV 1920x1080 capable LCD displays
available on the market than plasma displays.

> This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
> plasma.
>
> Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
> technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc......

[Mike]

I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
viewing. But the plasma picture has more natural look about it, the LCD
looks a little harsh and garish in its colours compared to plasma. And the
refresh rate, 16ms which is fairly standard amongst the middle range LCD's,
is completely hopeless for fast moving action shots like the tennis,
especially if there is high contrast between the moving subject and the
background - not a good look - in fact it really sucks - if I had known how
bad this is I would not have bought the LCD.

So as I see it LCD are nice but wanting is some areas, no doubt the LCD
supporters will cry foul over this but if your want an LCD screen 40" plus
in size and a refresh rate of no more than 8ms to get rid of the nasty pixel
lag, you are talking big bucks compared with an equivalent plasma. The
plasmas aint perfect but they deliver much more bang for the buck. As we
constantly hear from the LCD camp, they are getting better and better, sure
but who says plasma is not being enhanced as well. For me flatscreen
widescreen is optimally big screen and LCD's are not within a bull's roar of
plasmas pricewise. Next time the LCD camp rushes out and promotes the
latest and greatest, how about a price to go with it to see how that stacks
up with an equivalent plasma.


"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> and
> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> for all the LCD knockers.
>
> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>
>
> DAVO
>
>

[Kissing Lettuce]

RB wrote:

> Kissing Lettuce wrote:
> > Zappy wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >>
> >>>Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
> >>>and
> >>>they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
> >>>for all the LCD knockers.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>DAVO
> >>
> >>Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Really?
> >
> > Care to cite a reference for this assumption
>
> I think the fact that plasma televisions are a pile of steaming crap is
> a fairly well documented one (short life span, ultra high prices).
> Hence them no longer being produced by companies such as Sony.



Fair enough but if they were such a scam why were
they hyped as the "next big thing" in the first place?

[Gordon]

"Allan" <allanaws@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42c79a53$0$25177$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "acalcium" <acalcium@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:42c774f0@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> David Z wrote:
>>> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
>>>
>>
>> That's what they said about the horse and buggy.
>
> and the world would be a better place if we still used them now...:>
>
> But really the CRT is a far better format...
>
> Faster refresh rate, not digital Rain effects, No limited life, eg Plasmas
> around 10,000 hours of use...
>
> Technology for the sake of technology...
>
> As David said, If it ain't broke....
As much as I no disagrement that crt projection is the way to go from the
quality point of view, to say that they have no limitations in terms of tube
life is in imo incorrect.If one has a look at various forums relating to
crt projection you see that the tubes have limited life and while that is
between 3 and 10 times greater than the average lcd bulb ,it is still a
factor that has to be considered.Most Hd plasmas are capable of stunning
still images and occasionally stunning moving pictures.Trouble is both lcd
and plasma still have to many probs and if you can put up with an old
fashioned and perhaps smaller crt ctv the you will still get better quality
than either of the new technologies.
Gordon

[WKC]

A high end TV/Projector salesman once told me that they were lesser quality
than CRT, and only sold well because girlfriends and wives thought they
looked better (designwise-not picturewise), and would take up less space in
the loungeroom. He said that in the end the seemingly genuine loungeroom
space argument wasn't even true, because they usually ended up sitting
diagonally in a corner just like the old crt and taking up the same amont of
space. All the males present had a good laugh.

Darren.

> Fair enough but if they were such a scam why were
> they hyped as the "next big thing" in the first place?

[AnthonyP69]

Imolator,

Where in my post did I mention CRT????

No one who has responded to my post has addressed anything more than
the display resolution......

What about all the other short comings from the use LCD??



Imolator wrote:
> Hey Anthonyp69 crt technology also does not follow Moore's law, and
> niether does
> plasma.
>
> Since when has crt followed Moores's law, this is a ludacris statement.
> Every 18mthts twice as fast and 1/2 the price. :) Lcd has its
> advantages size and energy consumption being just two, but crt has been
> a stagnent technology for a fair while now.
>
>
> --
> Imolator

[Marcus]

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,118836,00.asp

May offer the best of both worlds. Depends on cost of course.

[DAVO]

"AnthonyP69" <preston_anthony@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120369471.385021.318310@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
> effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
> fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!

Sorry Anthony, wrong wrong, wrong. The Aquos LC45G1XSYS from Sharp has those
specs in a 45" panel as well.
>
> This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
> plasma.
>
> Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
> technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc......

Wrong, wrong, wrong, yet again Anthony! You obviously never read my original
post.Have another go at it.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357

DAVO

[DAVO]

"Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:42c7e966$0$9727$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
> loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
> The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
> viewing.

SNIP

Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with plasma
vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
this must tell you something about the two formats.

Oh, by the way, a closed mind is like a closed book.....just a block of
wood.

DAVO

[Ben Thomas]

DAVO wrote:
> "Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
> news:42c7e966$0$9727$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>
>>I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
>>loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
>>The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
>>viewing.
>
>
> SNIP
>
> Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with plasma
> vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
> walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
> this must tell you something about the two formats.

DAVO,

Consider Sony's support of Beta video and Minidisc for a couple of technologies
that died. Their support of a technology does not prove that it is the way to go
- quite the opposite in fact...
Ben

[DAVO]

"Ben Thomas" <nosp@m.thanks.mate> wrote in message
news:0dqmp2-rdg.ln1@centauri.unico.com.au...
> DAVO wrote:
> > "Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:42c7e966$0$9727$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> >
> >>I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
> >>loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
> >>The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close
up
> >>viewing.
> >
> >
> > SNIP
> >
> > Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with
plasma
> > vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
> > walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
> > this must tell you something about the two formats.
>
> DAVO,
>
> Consider Sony's support of Beta video and Minidisc for a couple of
technologies
> that died. Their support of a technology does not prove that it is the way
to go
> - quite the opposite in fact...
> Ben

G'day Ben,
Sony made the electronic industries' biggest mistake on record with how they
marketed Betacord. I wouldn't call the Minidisc anywhere near the mistake of
Betacord.

However, the rapid speed and progress of todays' technology can never be
compared to those early pioneering days. I am not saying I totally dislike
Plasma, it's just that it's at it's peak and to move on to something better,
LCD at the moment is the choice for the best overall performance. Time will
prove this to be the case.

If you go back even just 12 months, we were all being bombarded with the
brilliant technology of Plasmas, together with the price drops and believe
me that was only because of the more significant advancements of LCD
television.

Exciting times ahead for the next 12months.

DAVO

[Kissing Lettuce]

DAVO wrote:

> "Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
> news:42c7e966$0$9727$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> > I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
> > loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
> > The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
> > viewing.
>
> SNIP
>
> Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with plasma
> vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
> walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
> this must tell you something about the two formats.
>
> Oh, by the way, a closed mind is like a closed book.....just a block of
> wood.



Hang on books are not blocks of wood but
sheets of paper bound together in a format
one can read

[lcdsareboriganddull@badfromsideontoo.com]

On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:12:28 +0930, Kissing Lettuce
<sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote:

>DAVO wrote:
>
>> "Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:42c7e966$0$9727$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> > I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
>> > loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
>> > The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
>> > viewing.
>>
>> SNIP
>>
>> Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with plasma
>> vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
>> walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
>> this must tell you something about the two formats.
>>
>> Oh, by the way, a closed mind is like a closed book.....just a block of
>> wood.
>
>
>
>Hang on books are not blocks of wood but
>sheets of paper bound together in a format
>one can read
>

on Davo's lcd the books look like blocks of wood.

[Uncle Bully]

"Zappy" <kevin@zappy.com.au> wrote in message
news:42c73ba8@news.comindico.com.au...
>
> "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
>> and
>> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
>> for all the LCD knockers.
>>
>> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>>
>>
>> DAVO
>
> Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
>

"Plasma is dead. LCD is cheaper and more flexible. You'll be lucky if they
still make Plasma TVs in 2 years."

-Me, Mar 2004

:)


http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.audio-visual.home-cinema/browse_thread/thread/ada1ee98384bd924/63a930d59b34ed04?q=dead+plasma+group:aus.audio-visual.home-cinema+author:uncle+author:bully&rnum=1&hl=en#63a930d59b34ed04

[Daver]

It doesn't take much looking to see that there is a break pricewise.
Plasma's don't go below 35/37 inch and LCD of this size are above are still
very expensive. Therefore if you after larger sizes Plasma's are probably
the way to go.
LCD's still have the motion problem and the off centre viewing issue, not so
much from side to side but definitely in the vertical direction. Not so
good if you've got kids sitting on the floor watching TV. I can't believe
people still trot out the 10000hr figure either as I believe both
technologies are rated 60000hrs and you'll probably be looking to replace
both with the next best thing before you're half way through that.

[Barry]

On 2 Jul 2005 22:44:31 -0700, "AnthonyP69" <preston_anthony@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
>effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
>fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!

Dell have a 24" LCD (Samsung panel) for less that $2000 with a good refresh
rate:
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx?c=au&id=20lcd_au&l=en&s=dhs

A couple of mates bought these for just over $1300 a couple of months ago.
Awesome screen.

>This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
>plasma.
>
>Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
>technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc......

[scalpel]

You guys are great at hypothetical musings but ....

Have you been out and looked at screens?

The sharp Aquos 45" would presumably be the best LCD screen out at
present - yet it really is quite poor when displaying non HD images. It
still has motion artefact and is still quite prone to solarization
(clay faces) when the input signal is poor quality. Yes, it displays
slow moving pictures from a HD source beautifully, but that is a small
part of a screens display requirements.

The Dell 24" is now $1800 (if you can buy one at all due to stock
shortages), but is still only 24".

The last time I tried to hang my CRT on the wall, the house fell over.

Plasmas still offer a fantastic "thin screen" display in large sizes.
Go and have a good look at the 50" Fujitsu screen (40 series) in a well
set up display (with the ambient light sensor off) to see how good a
plasma can be. Great contrast / blacks / colour with no motion
artefacts and good signal processing to minimize noise etc.

Whilst each of the various technology offerings have pros and cons,
none is yet perfect. Yes, something will come out and kill off plasmas
(and maybe LCD's), but it isn't here now. For those who want to buy
now, it is not really useful to say that LCD's will be better in 1-2
years time.

J.


--
scalpel

[DAVO]

"Kissing Lettuce" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:42C8CC44.ECDBD9E6@internode.on.net...
> DAVO wrote:
>
> > "Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:42c7e966$0$9727$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> > > I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a
hopeless
> > > loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
> > > The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close
up
> > > viewing.
> >
> > SNIP
> >
> > Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with
plasma
> > vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
> > walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
> > this must tell you something about the two formats.
> >
> > Oh, by the way, a closed mind is like a closed book.....just a block of
> > wood.
>
>
>
> Hang on books are not blocks of wood but
> sheets of paper bound together in a format
> one can read


So you're telling us you can read a "closed book"??? Obviously only with a
"closed mind".

DAVO

[David Johnson]

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:59:07 +1000, RB <rblandon@tpg.com.au> wrote:

>Kissing Lettuce wrote:
>> Zappy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>>>Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
>>>>and
>>>>they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
>>>>for all the LCD knockers.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>DAVO
>>>
>>>Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Care to cite a reference for this assumption
>
>
>I think the fact that plasma televisions are a pile of steaming crap is
>a fairly well documented one (short life span, ultra high prices).
>Hence them no longer being produced by companies such as Sony.

They also have a huge power consumption, and are susceptible to burn
in.

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[Justin]

What about tube size limits? Seen many over 100cm?

"Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:da8t1i$q$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>
> "Allan" <allanaws@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42c79a53$0$25177$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>> "acalcium" <acalcium@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:42c774f0@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>> David Z wrote:
>>>> If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's what they said about the horse and buggy.
>>
>> and the world would be a better place if we still used them now...:>
>>
>> But really the CRT is a far better format...
>>
>> Faster refresh rate, not digital Rain effects, No limited life, eg
>> Plasmas around 10,000 hours of use...
>>
>> Technology for the sake of technology...
>>
>> As David said, If it ain't broke....
> As much as I no disagrement that crt projection is the way to go from the
> quality point of view, to say that they have no limitations in terms of
> tube life is in imo incorrect.If one has a look at various forums
> relating to crt projection you see that the tubes have limited life and
> while that is between 3 and 10 times greater than the average lcd bulb ,it
> is still a factor that has to be considered.Most Hd plasmas are capable of
> stunning still images and occasionally stunning moving pictures.Trouble is
> both lcd and plasma still have to many probs and if you can put up with an
> old fashioned and perhaps smaller crt ctv the you will still get better
> quality than either of the new technologies.
> Gordon
>

[Michael (Micksa) Slade]

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:43:36 +1000, DVD Cases wrote:

>
> "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels and
>> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
>> for all the LCD knockers.
>>
>> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>>
>>
>> DAVO
>>
>>
>
> work is currently being done on improving the CRT part of
> widescreen CRTs so that an 80cm TV would have a
> depth of only 30cm.
>
> Supposedly the first models will appear around XMAS 05
>
> CD

Could you tell us some more? Who? I presume you are talking about rear
projection sets?

Mick.
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Remove the -news from my email address.
http://mickworld.knobbits.org/

[DVD Cases]

"Michael (Micksa) Slade" <micksa-news@knobbits.org> wrote in message news:pan.2005.09.07.15.34.35.291898@knobbits.org.. .
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:43:36 +1000, DVD Cases wrote:
>
>>
>> "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels and
>>> they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
>>> for all the LCD knockers.
>>>
>>> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>>>
>>>
>>> DAVO
>>>
>>>
>>
>> work is currently being done on improving the CRT part of
>> widescreen CRTs so that an 80cm TV would have a
>> depth of only 30cm.
>>
>> Supposedly the first models will appear around XMAS 05
>>
>> CD
>
> Could you tell us some more? Who? I presume you are talking about rear
> projection sets?
>
> Mick.
> --
> Remove the -news from my email address.
> http://mickworld.knobbits.org/
>

no I was talking about standard CRT
I haven't seen anymore discussion on it
personally I think they need to think laterally
and use 9 small CRTS in synch lol

CD

[Matt2 - Amstereo]

nah, too hard to get colour purity the same on all screens, and no way
to join them without borders around each screen

[Fred]

Michael (Micksa) Slade wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:43:36 +1000, DVD Cases wrote:
>
>>
>> "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD
>>> panels and they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth
>>> taking a bo-peep at for all the LCD knockers.
>>>
>>> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>>>
>>>
>>> DAVO
>>>
>>>
>>
>> work is currently being done on improving the CRT part of
>> widescreen CRTs so that an 80cm TV would have a
>> depth of only 30cm.
>>
>> Supposedly the first models will appear around XMAS 05
>>
>> CD
>
> Could you tell us some more? Who? I presume you are talking about rear
> projection sets?

SED sets are just over the horizon. Toshiba Canon alliance.
IIRC the first ones will be larger screens at high prices.
http://www.canon.com/technology/display/

[WDino]

There so many LCD factories coming on line in China that there will soon be a
glut of available LCD screens for OEMs. This should see both a large drop in
price and an increase in quality due to the competition.

Michael (Micksa) Slade wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:43:36 +1000, DVD Cases wrote:
>
>
>>"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>>Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels and
>>>they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
>>>for all the LCD knockers.
>>>
>>>http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>>>
>>>
>>>DAVO
>>>
>>>
>>
>>work is currently being done on improving the CRT part of
>>widescreen CRTs so that an 80cm TV would have a
>>depth of only 30cm.
>>
>>Supposedly the first models will appear around XMAS 05
>>
>>CD
>
>
> Could you tell us some more? Who? I presume you are talking about rear
> projection sets?
>
> Mick.

[Justin]

"WDino" <oniDW@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:N_QTe.26223$FA3.9498@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> There so many LCD factories coming on line in China that there will soon
> be a glut of available LCD screens for OEMs. This should see both a large
> drop in price and an increase in quality due to the competition.
>
I heard Peter Blasina on the radio today - he's was at a technology show in
Europe (Germany I think) & said that he saw dozens of brands of LCD screens
that he'd never seen before (neither had anyone he was with). All rebranded
OEM models no doubt, but they are forcing the prices down very quickly.

[DVD Cases]

"Fred" <bluser@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3o9aacF4sfueU1@individual.net...
> Michael (Micksa) Slade wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:43:36 +1000, DVD Cases wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD
>>>> panels and they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth
>>>> taking a bo-peep at for all the LCD knockers.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DAVO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> work is currently being done on improving the CRT part of
>>> widescreen CRTs so that an 80cm TV would have a
>>> depth of only 30cm.
>>>
>>> Supposedly the first models will appear around XMAS 05
>>>
>>> CD
>>
>> Could you tell us some more? Who? I presume you are talking about rear
>> projection sets?
>
> SED sets are just over the horizon. Toshiba Canon alliance.
> IIRC the first ones will be larger screens at high prices.
> http://www.canon.com/technology/display/
>
thanks for the link Fred
SEDs were obviously the technology
I was told about though the source
thought they were CRT they are CRT like
for mine these look to be a better option
than LCD or PLASMA

CD

[Reg Mills Stereo]

SONY NEVER MADE PLASMA: THEY BOUGHT PANELS FROM 3 DIFFERENT MANUFACTURES.
THEY FOOLED THE WORLD WITH A PRESS RELEASE STATING THEY WERE CLOSING ALL
THEIR PLASMA FACTORIES(true because they never had a plasma factory) Now all
those who read or were forwarded this info. believe that if a big company
like Sony would spend millions of dollars closing up plasma factories then
of course PLASMA CAN'T BE ANY GOOD!
The reality is that for any screen size over 37inch Plasma still outperforms
all others at any price in todays marketplace.
"RB" <rblandon@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:42c7c513$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Kissing Lettuce wrote:
> > Zappy wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >>
> >>>Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD
panels
> >>>and
> >>>they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep
at
> >>>for all the LCD knockers.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>DAVO
> >>
> >>Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Really?
> >
> > Care to cite a reference for this assumption
>
>
> I think the fact that plasma televisions are a pile of steaming crap is
> a fairly well documented one (short life span, ultra high prices).
> Hence them no longer being produced by companies such as Sony.