Avia/DVD Essentials Calibration

[Slalomguy]

Hiyall,

Thinking about getting one of the above BUT cant figure out how it
calibrates the non dvd inputs.
I have a tv that stores the settings for each video input so for DVD player
,no problem, but what about the cable and HD receiver ?

Thanksinadvance

[1shado1@sbcglobal.net]

Slalomguy wrote:
> Hiyall,
>
> Thinking about getting one of the above BUT cant figure out how it
> calibrates the non dvd inputs.
> I have a tv that stores the settings for each video input so for DVD
player
> ,no problem, but what about the cable and HD receiver ?
>
> Thanksinadvance

Good question. I would think that setting the levels to the same
values as the ones for the DVD input would be about as close as you're
gonna get.

Jeff

[Slalomguy]

yes , but the DVD input is the one that requires the least tweaking
no matter what the settings the DVD playback picture is always watchable
its the cable and HD receiver picture that I am not always happy with
and I cant figure out if these discs can adjust those independently

<1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> Slalomguy wrote:
>> Hiyall,
>>
>> Thinking about getting one of the above BUT cant figure out how it
>> calibrates the non dvd inputs.
>> I have a tv that stores the settings for each video input so for DVD
> player
>> ,no problem, but what about the cable and HD receiver ?
>>
>> Thanksinadvance
>
> Good question. I would think that setting the levels to the same
> values as the ones for the DVD input would be about as close as you're
> gonna get.
>
> Jeff
>

[severian]

You just have to set the inputs to where the DVD calibration indicated, and
wing it by eye, unless you can find a channel that's broadcasting a colorbar
pattern. Setting them to the DVD setting at least gets you to a good setting
for a really good, properly setup signal, after that you really have to
adjust to the source, but it's too bad you can't get a cal signal to adjust
to. But then, the variation in signal quality and how close each station on
cable adheres to any kind of standard after it gets massaged and sent to you
means it's almost impossible to come up with a correct setting for cable as
cable channels vary so much, certainly the ones on DTV are all over the
place, though that seems to have gotten better as time has gone on. The best
you can do is get close enough that all of them look "OK" as if you try and
adjust for each channel you'll drive yourself nuts.

It's kind of like LPs used to be. There is a correct vertical tracking angle
(VTA) for each LP record, which is adjusted by raising or lowering the
height of your turntable arm. The idea is to have the stylus of your
cartridge track at the same angle as the cutting head that cut the master
record did. I've known people who used gauges, found what sounded just the
best for each album (once again, no reference, you had to adjust by ear),
and used the gauge to adjust the height of the arm for each record they
played, even wrote the gauge setting on the cover of the albums. That was
always way too much for me, it seemed like you were there to service the
turntable not to listen to the music, it interferred too much with the
ability to listen and move from one album to the other while you were in a
music mood. So, I always played around until I found a good average setting
and listened to it that way. It's pretty much the same for TV settings.

"Slalomguy" <youwish@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> yes , but the DVD input is the one that requires the least tweaking
> no matter what the settings the DVD playback picture is always watchable
> its the cable and HD receiver picture that I am not always happy with
> and I cant figure out if these discs can adjust those independently
>
> <1shado1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1112099271.510230.231190@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > Slalomguy wrote:
> >> Hiyall,
> >>
> >> Thinking about getting one of the above BUT cant figure out how it
> >> calibrates the non dvd inputs.
> >> I have a tv that stores the settings for each video input so for DVD
> > player
> >> ,no problem, but what about the cable and HD receiver ?
> >>
> >> Thanksinadvance
> >
> > Good question. I would think that setting the levels to the same
> > values as the ones for the DVD input would be about as close as you're
> > gonna get.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
>
>

[Lucas Tam]

"Slalomguy" <youwish@nowhere.com> wrote in news:eVi2e.16897$C7.2468@news-
server.bigpond.net.au:

> its the cable and HD receiver picture that I am not always happy with
> and I cant figure out if these discs can adjust those independently

Nope, TV/cable can't be adjusted by these calibration discs.

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[Oliver Costich]

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:34:42 GMT, Lucas Tam <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com>
wrote:

>"Slalomguy" <youwish@nowhere.com> wrote in news:eVi2e.16897$C7.2468@news-
>server.bigpond.net.au:
>
>> its the cable and HD receiver picture that I am not always happy with
>> and I cant figure out if these discs can adjust those independently
>
>Nope, TV/cable can't be adjusted by these calibration discs.


Nor would it even be possible unless the other providers of input used
a common standard for their tranamissions. It's nout even consistent
on the same station most of the time.

[Xman@cdripper.com]

Since cable TV signals are so inconsistent you'll never be happy with the
picture on all channels. You can slap on HBO, adjust your picture level and
quality settings to your preference that you like...save them, then change
the channel and you are back to where you started from. Every channel is
different with TV signals...even it's digital TV. I just use the calibration
DVD on my DVD player and that's it. TV channels are just too different to
really make anything good.

"Slalomguy" <youwish@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:uYa2e.16575$C7.4961@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Hiyall,
>
> Thinking about getting one of the above BUT cant figure out how it
> calibrates the non dvd inputs.
> I have a tv that stores the settings for each video input so for DVD
> player ,no problem, but what about the cable and HD receiver ?
>
> Thanksinadvance
>
>
>

[Slalomguy]

thanks guys, I will probably wait and see if I can borrow one some day

"Xman@cdripper.com" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote in message
news:114k8ntti7j4i29@corp.supernews.com...
> Since cable TV signals are so inconsistent you'll never be happy with the
> picture on all channels. You can slap on HBO, adjust your picture level
> and quality settings to your preference that you like...save them, then
> change the channel and you are back to where you started from. Every
> channel is different with TV signals...even it's digital TV. I just use
> the calibration DVD on my DVD player and that's it. TV channels are just
> too different to really make anything good.
>
> "Slalomguy" <youwish@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:uYa2e.16575$C7.4961@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Hiyall,
>>
>> Thinking about getting one of the above BUT cant figure out how it
>> calibrates the non dvd inputs.
>> I have a tv that stores the settings for each video input so for DVD
>> player ,no problem, but what about the cable and HD receiver ?
>>
>> Thanksinadvance
>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Bruce Phillips]

Slalomguy wrote:
>> Hiyall,
>>
>> Thinking about getting one of the above BUT cant figure out how it
>> calibrates the non dvd inputs.
>> I have a tv that stores the settings for each video input so for DVD
>> player ,no problem, but what about the cable and HD receiver ?
>>
>> Thanksinadvance

There may be some info here that will help:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6463_7-5085739_1.html?tag=fs

I also have a set (Samsung HLP-5063) that can store individual input
settings. For HD material, I adjust brightness by finding a broadcast that
is letterboxed (a movie that is being shown OAR, for example), and lowering
it to the point where there is no more noise in the black bars on top and
bottom. I find that for component input from the STB, the brightness level
is significantly higher than the DVI input from my DVD player. You'll
probably find that the brightness set for HD will be too high for regular SD
broacasts, since, if I understand correctly, SD and HD broadcast with
different black levels.

Constrast is trickier and with my set I generally leave it at 90 for all.
For color, I tune to Discovery-HD, which IMO has the best HD, and eyeball it
by finding the best saturation point for fleshtones. Since one channel is
different from another, this setting can be pretty dynamic, but I find
Discovery-HD is a good starting point.

[Slalomguy]

thanks CNET has some great info
I have also found that the whites /brightness are overblown on the HD
channels
the funny thing is that I cant better my Panasonics default setting no
matter how much I tweak

"Bruce Phillips" <nobody@home.ok> wrote in message
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> Slalomguy wrote:
>>> Hiyall,
>>>
>>> Thinking about getting one of the above BUT cant figure out how it
>>> calibrates the non dvd inputs.
>>> I have a tv that stores the settings for each video input so for DVD
>>> player ,no problem, but what about the cable and HD receiver ?
>>>
>>> Thanksinadvance
>
> There may be some info here that will help:
>
> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6463_7-5085739_1.html?tag=fs
>
> I also have a set (Samsung HLP-5063) that can store individual input
> settings. For HD material, I adjust brightness by finding a broadcast that
> is letterboxed (a movie that is being shown OAR, for example), and
> lowering
> it to the point where there is no more noise in the black bars on top and
> bottom. I find that for component input from the STB, the brightness level
> is significantly higher than the DVI input from my DVD player. You'll
> probably find that the brightness set for HD will be too high for regular
> SD
> broacasts, since, if I understand correctly, SD and HD broadcast with
> different black levels.
>
> Constrast is trickier and with my set I generally leave it at 90 for all.
> For color, I tune to Discovery-HD, which IMO has the best HD, and eyeball
> it
> by finding the best saturation point for fleshtones. Since one channel is
> different from another, this setting can be pretty dynamic, but I find
> Discovery-HD is a good starting point.
>
>

[David B.]

Slalomguy wrote:
> thanks CNET has some great info
> I have also found that the whites /brightness are overblown on the HD
> channels the funny thing is that I cant better my Panasonics default setting no
> matter how much I tweak

After reading this thread, I think some of you may find this interesting.

> http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=222731


David